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Clovis Speakers Discuss Man's Origins In The United States
The State/AP ^ | 10-27-2005 | Meg Kinnard

Posted on 10/28/2005 11:53:56 AM PDT by blam

Posted on Thu, Oct. 27, 2005

Clovis speakers discuss man's origins in the United States

MEG KINNARD

Associated Press

COLUMBIA, S.C. - A University of Texas archaeologist opened the highly anticipated "Clovis in the Southeast" conference at the Columbia Metropolitan Convention Center Thursday by rejecting the premise on which many experts once based their theories on man's North American origins.

At the meeting, sponsored in part by the University of South Carolina, Michael Collins called the idea that the first inhabitants traveled by way of a land bridge from Asia "primal racism." Instead, Collins said, they arrived by water, because "the rich marine environments" along the northern Atlantic and Pacific coasts are "very attractive regions for human exploitation."

Conference staffer Thomas McDonald said that roughly 400 people had pre-registered for the four-day conference on Clovis - the culture traditionally thought to have been the first in North America.
In recent years, many experts have begun to consider other explanations, such as migration from Europe, and not Asia. That idea was advanced by Dennis Stanford, head of the archaeology division of the department of anthropology at the Smithsonian Institute's National Museum of Natural History.

Other speakers talked about the wide array of paleo-Indian artifacts throughout the southeastern region. University of South Carolina archaeologist Al Goodyear discussed his research at the Topper site in Allendale County, calling the spot "the Goldilocks location to be doing archaeology." In 1998, Goodyear announced that he had discovered artifacts thousands of years older than Clovis materials at Topper.

University of Tennessee professor David Anderson also encouraged private collectors to consider sharing their artifacts with the public. Be "thinking about where you're going to be 100 years from now," he said. "We're all part of the archaeological record."

Afternoon speakers discussed the discoveries of Clovis tools from sites throughout the Tennessee River Valley. Showing slides of the dozens of samples recovered from a Tennessee location, John Broster of the Tennessee Department of Conservation said, "It sorta gets boring in a way, after a while, I guess, but it's still really exciting."

On Friday, Jim Welch will moderate a discussion that Goodyear said "might get a little hot and heavy." Goodyear said he hoped artifact collectors would attend and help to heal some of the "antipathy" between professionals and collectors in the field.

Scheduled events culminate in a Saturday visit to the Topper site.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clovis; discuss; godsgravesglyphs; goodyear; mans; maritimearchaic; origins; preclovis; redpaintpeople; speakers; states; topper; united
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1 posted on 10/28/2005 11:53:58 AM PDT by blam
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called the idea that the first inhabitants traveled by way of a land bridge from Asia "primal racism."

Too bad that archaeology is another science infected by the PC bacillius.

2 posted on 10/28/2005 11:56:34 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

Topper Site: New Evidence Puts Man In North America 50,000 Years Ago

3 posted on 10/28/2005 11:57:00 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
So, I guess the whole 'starship lifeboat crashes on virgin planet' theory gets little support in this meeting, eh?
4 posted on 10/28/2005 11:57:54 AM PDT by ASOC (The result of choosing between the lesser of two evils still leaves you with - evil.)
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To: blam

How do they know we just did not evolve here from moonbats?


5 posted on 10/28/2005 11:58:10 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
Professor Stephen Oppenheimer's DNA studies place humans at Meadowcroft 25,000 years ago and they became isolated there until the later Mongoloid entrances: Journey Of Mankind

BTW, the oldest (undisputed) Mongoloid skeleton ever found is only 10,000 years old. Re: Oppenheimer.

6 posted on 10/28/2005 12:02:36 PM PDT by blam
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To: Semper Paratus
To arrive by water one would need a serious craft - either large rafts ("Kon-Tiki" type) or primitive ships. Such craft being sizable, the remnants of at least a few would be likely to survive either physically [like viking longboats], or at least in the lore. What is the age of the oldest boat/raft remnant ever found around the Americas?
7 posted on 10/28/2005 12:03:01 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: blam
Clovis speakers discuss man's origins in the United States

Didn't know there was anyone left alive that spoke Clovis.

8 posted on 10/28/2005 12:04:33 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: GSlob

Of the most feared warship in history, the Athenian trireme, not one survives.


9 posted on 10/28/2005 12:05:41 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Brilliant
How do they know we just did not evolve here from moonbats?

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It's generally accepted within the scientific community that this is the origin of Homo Democratis.

10 posted on 10/28/2005 12:07:18 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: blam
At the meeting, sponsored in part by the University of South Carolina, Michael Collins called the idea that the first inhabitants traveled by way of a land bridge from Asia "primal racism."

WTF does that mean? Sounds like a typical lefty. If you can't logically debunk your opponent's argument, call him a racist. Works every time.

11 posted on 10/28/2005 12:08:00 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: Semper Paratus

What exactly is "primal racism"? LOL Has a nice ring to it, though.


12 posted on 10/28/2005 12:09:27 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: blam

I want reparations against "American Indians" who stole this land from my ancestors!


13 posted on 10/28/2005 12:11:16 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: blam

Thanks for the post. I enjoy pre-Columbian history.


14 posted on 10/28/2005 12:12:07 PM PDT by wizr (Mentally lame duck.)
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To: RightWhale

And they weren't much more than 2000 years ago.

BTW, these speakers are probably correct about the North Pacific, but they are wildly incorrect about the North Atlantic.

North Atlantic shores are not at all hospitable for human life.


15 posted on 10/28/2005 12:13:11 PM PDT by Restorer (Illegitimati non carborundum)
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To: blam
Good article. Keep 'em coming!

Some good discoveries in the last few years. Things are getting exciting again.

16 posted on 10/28/2005 12:14:12 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: RightWhale

Xenu is my homeboy.


17 posted on 10/28/2005 12:14:56 PM PDT by job ("God is not dead nor doth He sleep")
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To: Restorer
North Atlantic shores are not at all hospitable for human life.

No kidding. That's why the Original Thirteen Colonies died out.

18 posted on 10/28/2005 12:16:40 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: blam
Thor Heyerdahl is probably the best-known proponant of the idea of human travel and cultural exchange across the oceans in ancient times. Read more at the Link below.

Today the Reed boats that ply the Andean Lake Titicaca in Bolivia, Ancient Egypt can current day Chad proclaim that ancient man was an adventurous traveler!

Thor's Heyerdahl's Explorations

I visited the Museum in Sweden where his boats are now displayed. In the next room are Viking long boats which did discover Greenland when the last global warming took place and greenLand was named for its Greeness, (an there was no Kermit!). As near as I could tell the Viking Long boats did not add CO2 to the atmosphere!!!!

19 posted on 10/28/2005 12:16:56 PM PDT by Young Werther
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Land/water travel does not have to be either/or.   Pop-science news blurbs fly all over the place but the consensus stays pretty constant.  Land routes are shown on simple maps because it's well, simpler.  Even population shift maps don't leave much room for differentiation between travel modes.  My favorite rendering of the consensus (CLICK! IT'S A MUST SEE) gets into more detail of the interplay between different routes.  It's supplementary info, not a contradiction.

The controversy is over dates.  Then it becomes a fuss between adults who do this for a living and a bunch of 'me first' clowns and their press agents.

20 posted on 10/28/2005 12:23:10 PM PDT by expat_panama
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