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Mass resignations in Holmdel High School football program ( Over Disruptive Student/Player)
Newsday ^ | 10-27-2005

Posted on 10/28/2005 6:03:03 AM PDT by Cagey

Edited on 10/28/2005 6:22:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

HOLMDEL, N.J. -- The head coach of the Holmdel High School football team, Joe O'Connor, has resigned along with all nine assistant coaches over what O'Connor says was an undermining of his authority by the school administration.

O'Connor quit Monday, saying the administration had reinstated a player after the coach made him leave the team over discipline problems. On Wednesday, nine assistant coaches decided to resign from the team as well in a show of solidarity with O'Connor.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: coach; coaches; education; football; holmdel; pspl; publicschool; resignation
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To: The Red Zone
Why does a team need "nine assistant coaches"?

Wouldn't be hard at our little school. Everyone down through the Jr. High coaches are called assistant coaches to the head high school coach.

101 posted on 10/28/2005 7:48:51 AM PDT by Pure Country
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The player may deserve to be kicked off, but I think a player deserves to have a "day in court" before punishment.

He had his day in court. The coach is the judge. Period. Shape up or ship out. I can't believe the school did not back the coach. Having been a varsity coach--if you don't have the support of the administration, you don't have anything. There is nothing worse than working for a district that is run by the parents.

102 posted on 10/28/2005 7:59:50 AM PDT by Pure Country
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To: tickles

At last ! Someone said what I was thinking.

***Ya really gotta wonder exactly what the board was thinking by appointing parents as assistant coaches.***

Everyone of those dads thinks he knows better than the coach. And, of course, HIS kid really deserves the breaks. I project lots of fist fights and at least one dad in jail, and lots of work for the local lawyers.


103 posted on 10/28/2005 8:01:31 AM PDT by kitkat (Democrat=Socialist=Communist. Hillary the RED)
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To: hoosiermama
Wonder if the school has enough insurance to cover an injured player, when the supervisors (coaches) are not qualified/trained in the area of expertise???????

Excellent point!

104 posted on 10/28/2005 8:10:10 AM PDT by Mamba56 ("You've got to kill people, and when you've killed enough they stop fighting." - Gen. Curtis LeMay)
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To: moasicwolf
How refreshing to see a man of principle honor, and strength of character!

When I was in 10th grade, we had a football coach named Coach Leasor. He was a former Marine and I'll admit without argument that he used "creative" language quite frequently. He was also one of the finest men I've ever been around. His players, including me, would have done just about anything for him.

We played our first game of the season in Orlando. The school where we played had some construction going on, so we were forced to have our "locker room" outside in the hallways. Coach Leasor unleased one of his typical halftime speeches, and because we were outside, some people heard him. The 2nd half was postponed due to rain, and we were supposed to come back the next night to finish the game.

When we all arrived at our locker room on Saturday, Coach Leasor was nowhere to be found. We soon found out that someone had complained about his language the night before and the school had "accepted his resignation". All the players got together and agreed that we would not wash our game or practice clothes, and that on Monday morning, we would ALL walk into the front office and deposit our things there and quit the team en masse in protest. Some of the seniors' parents contacted the newspaper and told them of our plans. On Sunday afternoon, the principal of our school called Coach Leasor and told him that his resignation was not being accepted and he could continue to coach, which he did for the remainder of the year.

105 posted on 10/28/2005 8:10:23 AM PDT by RightFighter
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To: BluH2o

Some may be volunteers. I had 3 co-workers that volunteered to be assistant coaches for a local high school. No compensation but they loved football.


106 posted on 10/28/2005 8:15:44 AM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: Calpernia

Watch for the principal to have her back turned on the sideline and get nailed by an out-of-bounds play tonight.


107 posted on 10/28/2005 8:17:09 AM PDT by Rebelbase (""As far as I can tell, she (Miers) is every bit as conservative as George Bush." --NCsteve (FR))
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To: RightFighter
Actually our football coaches were all tough as nails. I think that was expected back then, probably still is.

They might have used some tough talk too but they would not have gotten away with profanity other than pretty mild stuff. Neither the School nor the public would have allowed it and I think they were right.

108 posted on 10/28/2005 8:19:40 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Rebelbase

And a cooler of gator aid dumped over her head :P


109 posted on 10/28/2005 8:19:59 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Eagle Eye

They don't do it like that. Most (around Texas, anyway) separate out Freshman A and B from JV, but they all assemble on Friday for the Varsity games.


110 posted on 10/28/2005 8:20:28 AM PDT by 1L
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To: Cagey
"(Swider) knows something about the sport, and she will be assisted by our volunteers,'' Franceschini said.

"They play with a ball and, and, they have uniforms, and, oh yea, and they have cheerleaders too!", Swider was heard to exclaim. /sarc

111 posted on 10/28/2005 8:23:37 AM PDT by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: 1L
They don't do it like that.

Yes they do, that's why I said it like that.

In addition to the different teams (frosh, JV, Varsity) there are the position coaches as well.

Our local team (5th in state rankings) also has an othorpeadic MD and two trainers on the sideline. The local newspaper predicted standing room only 90 minutes before kickoff. We're expecting 800-10,000 fans.

Of course its the type of game where in the past we've had the local congressional rep lead prayer from the 50 yard line and the band plays Dixie.

112 posted on 10/28/2005 8:34:48 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye

The position coaches are usually the Freshman/JV coaches. Depending upon the size of the school/staff, they may have varsity assistants that don't work at all with the sub-varsity teams, but that's pretty much limited to the largest schools in Texas.

On Friday night, everyone's on the sidelines and/or in the press box. Jr. High coaches are scouting other teams. I'm sure there are exceptions to this rule in some places, but few and far between in Texas.

Standing room only for 10K fans? 10K is barely average around most of Texas, at least for larger school classifications, and I can only think of one or two local venues in that group where it would be SRO. Those are schools that were small schools 15-18 years ago and their stadiums were expanded but the expansion hasn't kept up.


113 posted on 10/28/2005 8:44:42 AM PDT by 1L
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To: takbodan

The schools are more interested in getting the budget passed than making sure the kids earn their grades and behave properly.


114 posted on 10/28/2005 8:46:50 AM PDT by OldFriend (G-D IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I'd be upset at the principal as well, but since I can't do anything about what SHE did I'm stuck with trying to help my son's team win so his chances of a career isn't shot. In the pros, if a player is suspended they can appeal and their suspension is waived pending that appeal. I think that would have been something that could have been done here. The coach could have simply refused to play the player.

There was due process. The coach cut the offending player. The principal overrode the coach, and reinstated the player. The coach then realized that the administration didn't support the coach, so he resigned.

HS sports *used* to be a benevelent dictatorship. Now, it's more live a govenorship, with the parents running the show.

115 posted on 10/28/2005 8:51:08 AM PDT by Maigrey (1-800-pryrwrr. Just a ring away...)
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To: hoosiermama
Wonder if the school has enough insurance to cover an injured player, when the supervisors (coaches) are not qualified/trained in the area of expertise???????

Yike. Is it reckless or negligent of the school board not to forfeit the game without experienced supervision should a player get hurt based upon a bad call of the head coach?
116 posted on 10/28/2005 8:55:47 AM PDT by BikerNYC (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: Cagey

The symbol of an authority figure is a football coach. If football coaches cannot exercise authority, then the lawyers, soccer moms, and eunuchs must have taken total charge of running the asylum.


117 posted on 10/28/2005 8:56:22 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: arizonarachel
...are his parents going to complain to the former boss and get anywhere? Highly unlikely.

You are correct. However, you can bet your bottom doallar that little precious will have learned, by then, how to get his own attorney involved.

118 posted on 10/28/2005 8:58:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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To: Cagey

He(the student) must the deans source for grass.. or members of the school board...


119 posted on 10/28/2005 9:11:41 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: arizonarachel

Actually, as an adult "precious" starts with the attorney (like rent a parents).


120 posted on 10/28/2005 9:49:26 AM PDT by kas2591 (Life's harder when you're stupid.)
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