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Woman claims Moore manipulated '9/11' scene
WND ^ | 10/27/05 | staff

Posted on 10/27/2005 4:19:37 PM PDT by pissant

A woman interviewed by controversial filmmaker Michael Moore for "Fahrenheit 9/11" claims he edited her segment to downplay her support for President Bush and for American troops fighting the war on terror.

Joanne Duetsch, who appeared in a "9/11" scene filmed in Washington, D.C., said when Moore approached her in March 2004 – shortly after al-Qaida-orchestrated bombings in Madrid – he was accompanied by Lila Lipscomb, whom she initially believed was an actress but later learned was the mother of a fallen soldier in Iraq.

Duetsch says she didn't know who Moore was at the time but instead assumed he was part of a local news crew because she observed that much of the interview process was being "staged."

"I was in Lafayette Park sitting on a park bench in front of the White House. I saw a woman walking towards me dressed in black. When the movie came out I found out this was Lila Lipscomb," she said in an e-mail interview with Ryan Mauro, editor of the website WorldThreats.com.

"I thought she was an actress because when she was being filmed, she looked somber," Duetsch continued. "When the camera came off of her, her demeanor changed as she talked to the man with the camera (who turned out to be Michael Moore – I did not know who he was at the time). He was telling her what to do. I thought they were part of the local news and it was being staged. It dawned on me that the media was filming her to create a scene to embarrass the president."

She went on to say that, as the interview progressed, she noticed an anti-war demonstration being set up nearby, describing it as also "being staged with props and lights."

"I remembered Vietnam and what our soldiers had to see. I didn't want them to have to come home and think we all hated them," Duetsch said, adding that because U.S. troops were at war, "they need to know we support them and what they're doing."

At that point, she said she approached Lipscomb, whom she still believed to be an actress. Duetsch described the following events:

I asked what was going on and that is when I said the scene was staged. She explained that her son was killed in Iraq. I told her how sorry I was for her loss, I gave her a hug, and told her I couldn't even imagine what she was going through. I have a son, so I know how horrible it must be. My heart went out to her and I was teary-eyed. She said the president killed her son, and I said "No, it was al-Qaida and these terrorists that shot down your son." I said, "Many people have lost sons and daughters," and then a voice interrupted me and said, "Did you lose someone in Iraq?" I turned and saw I was being filmed. I said, "No, I was referring to 9/11!" Coming from New Jersey, I know many people who have lost loved ones on 9/11, including some very close to me. I thought this was the local news, I still did not know this was for Michael Moore's movie.

In the finished version, however, Duetsch says her words were edited as follows:

In the movie, Michael Moore edited out what I said, edited out all the sympathies and emotion I expressed for Lila. When she said, "I lost my son," he edited it to make it appear as if my response was simply "Many people have lost sons and daughters," making me look heartless to the world. He knew I was referring to 9/11; he was right there listening.

Duetsch also says she never signed a release form giving Moore permission to use any of her interview in his film.

"I had anxieties and lost a lot of sleep over his misrepresentation of the facts," Duetsch said. "When the DVD came out before the election, I felt worse. My niece contacted me crying from college. She said her friends thought I was a bad person. Michael Moore had just spoken at her college also."

Duetsch said she is not considering legal action at the moment but only because she doesn't believe she has the resources to battle Moore or the film company and its distributor.

"They are the big guns, and I am the little man," she said.


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Hard to imagine The Slob editing for propaganda purposes!
1 posted on 10/27/2005 4:19:37 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Janice Rogers Brown

The antidote to Moore and the libs.

2 posted on 10/27/2005 4:21:38 PM PDT by dinok
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To: pissant
A woman interviewed by controversial filmmaker Michael Moore for "Fahrenheit 9/11" claims he edited her segment to downplay her support for President Bush and for American troops fighting the war on terror.

Too bad the movie came out over a year ago and this is being written up now.

3 posted on 10/27/2005 4:22:45 PM PDT by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: HitmanNY

She was probably hoping for an Emmy, and did not want to poison her chances.


4 posted on 10/27/2005 4:27:24 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: pissant

I'm gonna make a movie (slobumentary) about Michael Moore and use my producing talents to paint him as a war hawk, gung-ho GOP, pro-Bush, right wing fantatic. It's going to be difficult because I have to use a ten-foot telephoto lens in order to film his gargantuan girth from distance enough to avoid the smell.


6 posted on 10/27/2005 4:28:48 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: pissant


Mike Moore aka Leni Reifenstahl making propaganda movies !!!???

I`m shocked,SHOCKED !


7 posted on 10/27/2005 4:29:37 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: pissant
The evil, utterly hateful Moore is a massive phony who pulls off non-stop fraud 24/7. He stays in 5 star luxury hotels, travels on private jets... then holds news conferences in shabby hotels pretending to be staying there.


8 posted on 10/27/2005 4:32:43 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: HitmanNY

Who was the Senator who said he did the same thing to him?


9 posted on 10/27/2005 4:35:32 PM PDT by feyler
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To: dinok

Yes! I wish Bush had gone with her. Or Priscilla Owens. Instead of Miers.


10 posted on 10/27/2005 4:36:44 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: feyler

I don't know, sorry.


11 posted on 10/27/2005 4:36:48 PM PDT by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: pissant

Duck Quakes. News at 11.


12 posted on 10/27/2005 4:37:15 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA and SAS) 2005 WI PPA/CCW Ping List ~Contact me if you want on/off the ping list~)
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To: feyler

Also I saw the South Park creators say in an interview he did the same thing to them. They weren't happy.


13 posted on 10/27/2005 4:37:57 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: pissant
Don't seem to remember her in the film, but let that be a warning to everyone: don't start getting verbal when a camera is running.

As far as suing MM and company... that wouldn't be a good idea anyway... no such thing as bad publicity in SHOW BIZ.

14 posted on 10/27/2005 4:53:42 PM PDT by podkane
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To: pissant

Michael Moore is a fat slimy liar, the Pope is Catholic, bears crap in the woods, and the idea of Helen Thomas in a bikini makes me lose my lunch. What else is new?


15 posted on 10/27/2005 4:54:49 PM PDT by JillValentine (Only 44% of American women voted for BJ Clinton in 1992.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Mike Moore aka LeniLumpy Reifenstahl making propaganda movies !!!???

Fixed the typo.

16 posted on 10/27/2005 4:54:55 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Texas State Motto: "Regular or Extra-Crispy?")
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To: HitmanNY; All
Actually there is a movie that's been out for a while now...

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Fifty-nine Deceits in Farenheit 9/11: 4-page .pdf report written by David Kopel of the Independence Institute in Colorado.

You can find lots of information regarding Moore's deceit in Farenheit 9/11 (including his rebuttals) at David Kopel's website: http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

You can also purchase the movie and/or the companion book at the following website: http://www.fahrenhype911.com/ I've been thinking of buying one just to give to my local video store to put next to Moore's film... (No, I don't profit off the sales! LOL)
17 posted on 10/27/2005 5:18:40 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OU Bombing COMPREHENSIVE SUMMARY (Updated 10/26) - http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: LibertyRocks

Is this the one with the heavy handed Ron Silver stuff and Zel Miller talking trash about snakepits?


18 posted on 10/27/2005 5:22:08 PM PDT by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Bump!


19 posted on 10/27/2005 5:22:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: HitmanNY

Honestly, I've never seen the movie. Ron Silver is listed as the narrator, and Zel Miller is one of the people in the film - so I guess it must be the same one you are referring to...

I've only read the essays and such on David Kopel's site. (Several friends of mine back in Colorado worked with Kopel on some 2nd Amendment issues and such, as well as Caldara, and the Independence Institute. That's how I came to know about the essay and the movie when it first came out.)

You can view a "cast" list on this page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427228/


20 posted on 10/27/2005 5:41:26 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OU Bombing COMPREHENSIVE SUMMARY (Updated 10/26) - http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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