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Vice President for Torture
Washington Post ^ | 10/26/2005 | Washington Post

Posted on 10/26/2005 9:05:58 AM PDT by conserv13

VICE PRESIDENT Cheney is aggressively pursuing an initiative that may be unprecedented for an elected official of the executive branch: He is proposing that Congress legally authorize human rights abuses by Americans. "Cruel, inhuman and degrading" treatment of prisoners is banned by an international treaty negotiated by the Reagan administration and ratified by the United States. The State Department annually issues a report criticizing other governments for violating it. Now Mr. Cheney is asking Congress to approve legal language that would allow the CIA to commit such abuses against foreign prisoners it is holding abroad. In other words, this vice president has become an open advocate of torture.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cheney; gitmo; pow; torture
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I know how most of you feel, but I tend to agree with the Washington Post on this one.
1 posted on 10/26/2005 9:05:58 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: conserv13

If it would save one American life, I wouldn't care if they pulled a terrorists fingers off one at a time. But that's just me.


2 posted on 10/26/2005 9:09:00 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: conserv13

Bet this post is a distortion of the facts, again. Anyone...


3 posted on 10/26/2005 9:09:03 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub.)
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To: conserv13
In other words, this vice president has become an open advocate of torture.

Yes, to members of the press. Cheney in 08!!!

4 posted on 10/26/2005 9:09:44 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: conserv13

"Cruel, inhuman and degrading"


Sounds bad but what does it mean?


5 posted on 10/26/2005 9:10:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: conserv13

I support the use of torutre depending on the urgency and seriousness of the situation.


6 posted on 10/26/2005 9:11:14 AM PDT by bigsigh
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To: conserv13
The media has gone into full blown smear frenzy mode. Target's: Rove, Cheney, Delay, Frisk, etc.

Throw as much utter garbage as possible up on the wall.

7 posted on 10/26/2005 9:11:53 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: bigsigh

I'm against torture. I'm all for humilating the bastards.


8 posted on 10/26/2005 9:11:56 AM PDT by Sterm26 (Indict Joe Wilson!)
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To: conserv13
It's not surprising that Mr. Cheney would be at the forefront of an attempt to ratify and legalize this shameful record.

Just an impartial piece in the WP. (sarc)

9 posted on 10/26/2005 9:12:09 AM PDT by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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To: cripplecreek

Panties on the head bump


10 posted on 10/26/2005 9:13:12 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Sterm26
I'm against torture. I'm all for humilating the bastards.

That is my position as well.

11 posted on 10/26/2005 9:14:18 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: cripplecreek

Supposedly :

"...including "waterboarding," or simulated drowning; mock execution; and the deliberate withholding of pain medication."

It's a tough one, really, torture. How do you decide it's warranted ? If there could be an firm standard made for who needs to be interrogated like that, I got very little sympathy for the terrorists. Only problem is what about the little guy that gets picked up just for standing near something ? Or turned in by his pissed off neighbor for nothing ?


12 posted on 10/26/2005 9:15:00 AM PDT by farlander
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Look.

EVERYONE thinks the US tortures detainees.

Why not remove the illegality of it and give foreign terrorists a reason to be afraid?

It's time to take the gloves off.


13 posted on 10/26/2005 9:15:45 AM PDT by nuffsenuff (Don't get stuck on Stupid - General Russ Honore Sept 21, 2005)
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I'm with you the LSM media is no don't distorting, twisting or outright lying about what Cheney is asking for. I'm not even going to bother to read the whole article since their MO is so tiresome.

< However, I would have no problem if it were true. For all I care they can take these savages into a cave and boil them in pigs blood, pull them out while they're still rare and feed them to wild boars.

OK, you can all flame away and lecture me how we're better then them. Well we are.

14 posted on 10/26/2005 9:16:31 AM PDT by marlon
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To: nuffsenuff
Why not remove the illegality of it

Its wrong.

15 posted on 10/26/2005 9:17:25 AM PDT by conserv13
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How would you feel if it led to the loss of one American life? How would you feel if bin laden and his ilk used this to enrage their followers? How would you feel if most of us in the military were opposed to toture as ineffective and counter to what we stand for as a country?
16 posted on 10/26/2005 9:18:22 AM PDT by ChiefBoatswain
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Bet this post is a distortion of the facts, again. Anyone...

Could be..But if its not..I say to Cheney..GO FOR IT!

I am FOR torture..and I dont mean panties on the head either. Not torturing is NOT PROVEN to prevent the torture of our Captured Soldiers or others.

I say TORTURE should be used whenever we can get away with it.

17 posted on 10/26/2005 9:18:30 AM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: conserv13

Man on Fire Ping!

Mr. President(D) - "Nope. No torture, I don't care how many millions of people will be incinerated - this man has rights."

Wonder how many Liberal Elites will be worried about torture as their body slowly boils off their skeleton.


18 posted on 10/26/2005 9:19:20 AM PDT by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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To: conserv13
Duncan Hunter: "including oven-fried chicken, rice pilaf, fruit and pita bread..."

"Here you have a guy who was on his way to kill 5,000 Americans," he said. "And we have people complaining because he had a dog bark at him in Guantanamo."

Give me a friggin break!!!
19 posted on 10/26/2005 9:19:23 AM PDT by Toidylop
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"...including "waterboarding," or simulated drowning; mock execution; and the deliberate withholding of pain medication."

Do you want that done to captured US troops? If we do it to people we capture, it ups the possibility that enemies, in this war and future ones, will feel authorized to do it to US personnel. That's one of the reasons for restraint in prisoner treatment -- to try to protect our own men who become prisoners.

20 posted on 10/26/2005 9:19:50 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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