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Most Muslims keep extremist literature
The Muslim News | This is Derbyshire ^ | 10/25/05

Posted on 10/25/2005 3:47:27 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Muslims rarely throw away leaflets containing possible extremist references because it is forbidden by their religion, a childhood friend of a failed Derby suicide bomber told a court.

Irfan Bhatti, who befriended terrorist Omar Sharif when they were at Bemrose School together between 1988 and 1992, told the Old Bailey yesterday that he had such leaflets at home.

But he denied that it meant he or anyone else with the literature held those same extremist views, the court heard.

Omar Sharif, of Northumberland Avenue, Derby, failed to blow himself up in a busy bar in Tel Aviv in 2003.

His accomplice, 21-year-old Asif Hanif, of London, detonated his bomb, killing three people and wounding 65.

Omar (27) fled and his body was found washed up off the Tel Aviv shore 12 days later.

Omar's brother, Zahid (39), and sister Parveen (37) deny failing to disclose information relating to a terrorism act. Parveen also denies inciting terrorism.

The jury had heard that leaflets and other literature of an extremist nature were found during police searches of Omar's home, as well as Zahid's home in Upperdale Road, Normanton, and Parveen's home in Breedon Hill Road after the terror attacks.

But Mr Bhatti told the jury that the literature was forever being handed out inside and outside mosques.

He said that because many of the leaflets contained sections from the Koran, it was against their religion to discard them.

The court heard how Mr Bhatti and Omar were like brothers, even after they separated to go to different sixth-form colleges and when Omar moved to a London university.

He said Omar would often talk to him about marriage, religion and other issues and said he was surprised when he heard of his attempted terrorist attack, as previously Omar had seemed against such actions.

"We had a very good relationship," he added. "We'd discuss everything that was a major issue for him. But I didn't know he'd decided to become involved with suicide bombings.

"I would have expected him to tell me of something so important. It came as a surprise to me that he did what he did."

The court heard Mr Bhatti had once seen Omar helping on a stall run by extremist group Al-Mujaharoun in Derby but said it was because the group was trying to introduce non- Muslims to Islam, a step that his friend would have agreed with.

Mr Bhatti added that he knew Zahid well and Parveen had been extremely helpful when his own mother died.

He said he had heard Zahid discuss fighting on behalf of Muslims but told the jury he would always say that it was forbidden. The trial continues.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bombing; derby; extremist; israel; literature; muslims; suicide; taqiyya; telaviv; terrorists; trial; trop
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1 posted on 10/25/2005 3:47:28 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

I'll be politically correct and remain civil.


Doogle

be it did have something to do with bathroom paper


2 posted on 10/25/2005 3:50:28 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...7thAF ..4077th TFW...408th MMS..Ubon Thailand.."69",,Night Line Delivery..AMMO)
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To: LibWhacker

Let's face it - co-existing with civilized people is forbidden by Islam.

Now let's take the next logical step and forcibly convert or kill them all, before they are able to do the same to us.

Islam and humanity are mutually exclusive. Time we stopped messing around pretending otherwise.


3 posted on 10/25/2005 3:51:15 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: LibWhacker

Being an ex-lefty, I can believe this. I still have a stack of ridiculous pamphlets from equally ridiculously named organisations urging immediate nuclear strikes on the West and solidarity with the striking revolutionaries of Bongo Bongo Land.


4 posted on 10/25/2005 3:53:48 PM PDT by English Nationalist
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To: LibWhacker

He said that because many of the leaflets contained sections from the Koran, it was against their religion to discard them.

Just because Mr. Guevarra had copies of the Communist Manifesto in his house, doesn't mean he was a communist
oh no.

We wanted to throw them away but it was against our religion bump.


5 posted on 10/25/2005 3:55:00 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: LibWhacker

"Muslims rarely throw away leaflets containing possible extremist references because it is forbidden by their religion, a childhood friend of a failed Derby suicide bomber told a court."

Can you imagine if Christians said we rarely throw away leaflets urging people to kill blacks or Muslims because "religion forbid it?"

The media would tar and feather us faster than you could blink.

And then they'd ask "what were you doing with the leaflets in the first place?"


6 posted on 10/25/2005 3:56:07 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: thoughtomator

The more I learn about Islam, the less I think it is a real religion and more a cult of personality.


7 posted on 10/25/2005 4:00:54 PM PDT by USAFJeeper
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To: gondramB

Yep, so much for the claim that most muslims are peace-loving. Most muslims are bloodthirsty monsters who haven't "come out of the closet yet," so to speak.


8 posted on 10/25/2005 4:02:34 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: USAFJeeper

Oh, it's a real religion, all right, just a thoroughly barbaric and evil one. People from a Judeo-Christian culture will not easily comprehend the true depth of savagery and depravity and inhumanity which Islam demands of its slaves*.


* according to Islam, its adherents are slaves to the will of Allah.


9 posted on 10/25/2005 4:03:24 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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He said that because many of the leaflets contained sections from the Koran, it was against their religion to discard them.

No matter how WRONG the message was they would not destroy such work by non-believers?

There will NEVER be a reform Islam movement because they are unwilling to end the hate.

10 posted on 10/25/2005 4:04:15 PM PDT by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: LibWhacker
The muslim is lying again . Murdering people that don't have the same religion as they do is their religion! And sad to say it but the western world hasn't got the steel in the spine to literally stop the stupidity out of the folks who are in charge of the indoctrination curriculum that is being used to raise the next half dozen generations of Islamic Fascist Islamikazes.
{remember boy's & girls Allah akhbar is arabic for BANZAI MOTHERF*CK*R & you should deal with that person the same way the Marines dealt with Banzai charges,KILL THE BASTARDS}
11 posted on 10/25/2005 4:06:23 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: thoughtomator; AmericanArchConservative; USF; jan in Colorado; Former Dodger; ariamne; ...
Now let's take the next logical step and forcibly convert or kill them all, before they are able to do the same to us.

Before we take the next logical step, do you suppose someone could tell the President that Islam is the greatest threat of our time. And let's do it quickly...before he does another hand-holding tour of the ranch with yet another Saudi Prince.

"I know its a pretty thing to behold, Mr. President, but it is more than just a big wooden horse...it is a Trojan Horse."

12 posted on 10/25/2005 4:06:57 PM PDT by Dark Skies (Islam is as "...dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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But Mr Bhatti told the jury that the literature was forever being handed out inside and outside mosques.

It is the duty of the clerics at the mosques to evict all radical muslims from their property. This denial of accountablity isn't flying. They condone such literature rather than denouncing it and ending up on the receiving end of a fatwa.

13 posted on 10/25/2005 4:07:20 PM PDT by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: weegee

Add to that, any muslim who does dare to speak out against it is immediately murdered. The only way to change it is there must be some outside agency that murders the murderers; i.e., the imams and their henchmen. Reform can never come from within such an organization.


14 posted on 10/25/2005 4:10:49 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Muslim p**s on your head and tell you it's raining bump.


15 posted on 10/25/2005 4:15:30 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: LibWhacker

I suppose most Nazis kept their Mein Kampf handy, and the same with Communists and their Das Kapital. Look for the signs...they're all from the same camp of psychotics. Stay tuned, it can only get crazier before we wake up and do something more drastic about it.....


16 posted on 10/25/2005 4:20:56 PM PDT by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: Dark Skies

Now let's pretend you have a referendum in the US. The question:

Should islam be outlawed? YES/NO

What might be your predicted result?


17 posted on 10/25/2005 4:27:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks
May we campaign or do you prefer a standard MSM poll?

See my tag line and tremble!

18 posted on 10/25/2005 4:34:51 PM PDT by Dark Skies (Hey Freddie...long time no see!)
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To: Dark Skies

So if we print quotes from the Koran on a nudie mag they would have to keep it in their house? This is just way, way to fundamentalist for me. Anybody this literal is likely to just be nuts.


19 posted on 10/25/2005 4:43:30 PM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: bpjam

Anybody this literal is likely to just be nuts...

Now let me give you an idea how nuts. In the hadith, the sayings and doings of the 'prophet', there's a rendition of how mohammad waggled his willy four or five times after he had a pee. (I personally don't recall exactly how many.) Now, 1400 years later, every moslem with a willy has to waggle it four or five times...I guess it's to make allah happy.

Of course they are nuts. So would you be if you were indoctrinated to that extent from the moment of your birth. The first thing a moslem child hears when it first opens its eyes at birth, is a verse from the koran. And it never stops.


20 posted on 10/25/2005 4:48:35 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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