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1 posted on 10/25/2005 11:55:32 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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I don't know how anyone can bear watching the Today Show. I could not even read the transcript.


2 posted on 10/25/2005 11:57:28 AM PDT by CobraJet
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"Treason"

Odd accusation coming from staunch anti-Americans.


3 posted on 10/25/2005 11:58:21 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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Franken: "And now, now, now, now we know he's not and that he is corrupt too so that's, yeah, yeah?"

He's got a career in radio, huh? For how long?

4 posted on 10/25/2005 11:59:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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And when will Al Franken and Matt Lauer be submitting themselves to the firing squad for the much more clear cut acts of treason they carry out on a daily basis?


5 posted on 10/25/2005 12:01:41 PM PDT by MikeA
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Lauer would laugh at a coffee spill if told to....

Doogle


6 posted on 10/25/2005 12:01:58 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...7thAF ..4077th TFW...408th MMS..Ubon Thailand.."69",,Night Line Delivery..AMMO)
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while Lauer just smiled and laughed when left-wing radio host Al Franken predicted the execution of Karl Rove and Lewis Libby, a few weeks ago when Pat Robertson called for the assassination of Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, an anti-American dictator who has cozied up with Iran's ayatollahs and Cuba's communists, Today was outraged enough to lead the show with Robertson's supposed transgression

Does MRC not see ANY difference between a comedian making a joke and a religious leader actually calling for assassination?

8 posted on 10/25/2005 12:03:22 PM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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outing his wife who's a CIA agent

Since when....1998? When she was pulled out of covert work because of Alrdige Aimes?

Idiot Franken, the conjunction "who's" means "who is", not "who WAS"!

Honestly, these people are dillusional. And, it would be amusing, but it looks like Rove and Libby might be at risk.

9 posted on 10/25/2005 12:05:46 PM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the RATs and RINOs, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" - Arnie)
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When Herr Hillary takes over, she can make Franken head of the SS.


10 posted on 10/25/2005 12:09:01 PM PDT by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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Wonder who's idea it was to say that you can say anything you want and call it satire.....Some say that Al Franken is a satirists...that man wouldn't know satire if it bit him on the ass....
11 posted on 10/25/2005 12:10:28 PM PDT by Getsmart64
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Is this the Al Franken "I'm an Idiot" tour? First Letterman, now the "Today" show? Did Lauer ask Franken how Air America's ratings were?


13 posted on 10/25/2005 12:13:21 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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Franken lies. Always has.


14 posted on 10/25/2005 12:14:29 PM PDT by sauropod ("Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important." - T.S. Eliot)
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I thought Lauer was going to faint with excitement.


15 posted on 10/25/2005 12:15:25 PM PDT by OldFriend (David Gelernter ~ American Patriot)
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Well I think Franken should have his tongue cut out for talking like that. Har de har har.


20 posted on 10/25/2005 12:40:17 PM PDT by Graymatter
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I can only hope and pray that someday, Al and the rest of these twits will do their laughing in a room with iron bars.


26 posted on 10/25/2005 12:50:55 PM PDT by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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Liberal Elites Intend to Destroy
Rule America?
Liberal elites ruined Britain as a hyperpower. Could America meet the same fate?
by Jonathan V. Last
10/21/2005 12:00:00 AM



WHAT DOES MODERN HISTORY have to teach us about the age of American empire? The final chapters of the British Empire offer lessons and parallels aplenty. Empires don't last forever, and the combination of martial victory, popular ennui, and liberal anti-patriotism is a dangerous mix for a superpower.

At the beginning of the 20th century, the British Empire was an unopposed hyperpower (much as the United States has been since 1989). As historian Colin Cross observes: "In terms of influence it was the only world power." The British people and their leaders accepted this fact. In the early 1930s, Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin pronounced that "the British Empire stands firm, as a great force for good." Historian William Manchester argues that "most of the crown's subjects, abroad as well as at home, felt comfortable with imperialism."

But after the conclusion of the first World War, Britain's imperial psyche began to fracture. "After the survivors of the Western front came home," Manchester writes, "Britons wanted nothing more to do with war; most of them hoped never again to lay their eyes on an Englishman in uniform, and they were losing their taste for Empire." Winston Churchill despaired of this change. "The shadow of victory is disillusion," he noted. "The reaction from extreme effort is prostration. The aftermath even of successful war is long and bitter."

A deep desire to avoid conflict, even at the price of letting the Empire dissolve, permeated British society. In 1931, the House of Commons passed the Statute of Westminster, the first step toward independence for Britain's dominions. In 1932, a poll found that 10.4 million Britons supported England's unilateral disarmament, while only 870,000 opposed it. Historian Alistair Horne observes that, after World War I, it took just about 10 years for the "urge for national grandeur" to be replaced by "a deep longing simply to be left in peace."

Why did it all crumble? Several interrelated reasons - among them the grisly fact that England had lost virtually an entire generation of future leaders in the trenches of Europe. But another important cause was the waning of confidence on the part of liberal British elites, whose pacifism evolved into anti-patriotism.

In 1933, the Oxford Union - a debating society and one of the strongholds of liberal elite opinion - held a debate on the resolution "this House will in no circumstances fight for king and country." The resolution passed. Margot Asquith, one of England's leading liberal lights, wrote that same year, quite sincerely: "There is only one way of preserving peace in the world, and getting rid of your enemy, and that is to come to some sort of agreement with him. . . . The greatest enemy of mankind today is hate."

Churchill disdained the new liberalism, mocking one of his opponents as part of "that band of degenerate international intellectuals who regard the greatness of Britain and the stability and prosperity of the British Empire as a fatal obstacle. . . . " So deep was this liberal loathing of empire that even as the first shots of World War II were being fired, Churchill's private secretary, Jock Colville, witnessed at a theater "a group of bespectacled intellectuals" who, to his shock, "remain[ed] firmly seated while 'God Save the King' was played."

These elites could see evil only at home. The French intellectual Simone de Beauvoir did not believe that Germany was a "threat to peace," but instead worried that the "panic that the Right was spreading" would drag France, Britain, and the rest of Europe into war. Stafford Cripps, a liberal Labor member of Parliament, feared not Hitler, but Churchill. Cripps wrote that after Churchill became prime minister he would "then introduce fascist measures and there will be no more general elections."

In an important sense, the British Empire's strength failed because its elite liberal citizens stopped believing in it.

The parallels with 21st-century America are striking. In little more than 10 years, England went from victory in World War I to serious discussions about completely disarming herself. Talk of a "peace dividend" began with the fall of the Berlin Wall and culminated 10 years later with a major draw-down of forces and the abandonment of the two-war doctrine.

Where the Great War robbed England of a generation of its best and brightest, in America the baby boom generation was lost in Vietnam or, perhaps worse, in Canada, in the Air National Guard, and in the universities, where they learned to hide and not lead. This has taken its toll. Our two baby boom presidents have been exceedingly imperfect. (As Edmund Burke once cautioned, "A great empire and little minds go ill together.")

The American left, too, eerily echoes its British counterparts. Consider the "Peace is Patriotic" bumper stickers; the howls of protest against the nomination of John Bolton to be ambassador to the United Nations, for fear that he might be too assertive of American values; the comparison - by Sen. Richard Durbin (D., Ill.) - of American soldiers at Guantanamo Bay to Nazis and Guantanamo Bay to the Soviet gulag; the protest cries of "No blood for oil" and the left-wing fringe speculation that the endgame of George W. Bush's 9/11 fear-mongering would be to cancel elections and establish a fascist police state.

The liberal opponents of the British Empire were proved wrong, but their misplaced disillusionment was enough to sap the vitality of imperial confidence. After rising one last time to fight Nazism, the sun set on the British Empire.

Likewise, it is pleasant to believe that the crisis of confidence in today's liberal elites won't affect the outcome of our war with Islamist extremism. The greater worry concerns what happens next. Will protestations of liberal elites become mainstream diffidence about America's place in the world? Will we, too, stop believing that America stands firm, as a great force for good - and then see our place in the world diminish?

History, it turns out, can be both a comfort and a caution.


Jonathan V. Last is online editor of The Weekly Standard and a contributor to the blog Galley Slaves. This piece originally appeared in the October 9, 2005 Philadelphia Inquirer.


30 posted on 10/25/2005 1:15:35 PM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006 - George Allen, POTUS 2008)
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I thought this guy was a comedian! Does he really have to go around repeating the same tired joke just because it got a few yuks the first time? I used to know a kid like this in my cub scout troop. He told one funny joke that got a laugh out of people, then proceeded to keep telling it, thinking he was still being funny. He annoyed everyone and ended up being deemed the most unfunny person in the world.


32 posted on 10/25/2005 1:37:14 PM PDT by Bird Jenkins
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Today's "canoegate."

LMAO. And these guys think we take ANYTHING they say seriously?

33 posted on 10/25/2005 2:08:38 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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This, coming from a man who has failed to convince America to listen to liberal lies and agenda. The worst radio show in America and he is on Matt Lauer's show..go figure.


34 posted on 10/25/2005 2:42:56 PM PDT by Shaka
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Did Lauer have his man-purse?


36 posted on 10/25/2005 2:59:59 PM PDT by cardinal4
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Wow Franken's show must be stuck in a toilet on perma flush to do outrageous stuff like this just for attention!

Wanna make a lot of money fast? Mass Manufacture masks of Al's face - we can call them "Frankenmasks".


37 posted on 10/25/2005 3:05:17 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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