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Wolfowitz Calls For End To Farm Subsidies(what's so free about "free trade?")
Free Internet Press ^ | October 24, 2005 | Intellpuke

Posted on 10/25/2005 9:32:46 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer

Rich countries must abandon farm subsidies and give more market access to poor states if the Doha trade talks are to succeed, the head of the World Bank said today. Bank chief Paul Wolfowitz made his appeal amid fears that the World Trade Organization (WTO) meeting of ministers in Hong Kong was in jeopardy because of the absence of progress on farm subsidies.

Writing in the Financial Times, Wolfowitz said the need to reduce protection on agriculture was a central element of the Doha talks. He warned that unless serious concessions were made by all sides, the Doha talks would fail "and the people who will suffer the most are the world's poor".

Wolfowitz, formerly a leading Pentagon official, called on the U.S. to step up efforts to cut farm subsidies and urged the European Union to do more on market access for products from poor countries. He added, however, that developing countries also had to open their services and manufacturing markets and lower their own agricultural protection.

Wolfowitz said it was not morally justifiable for rich countries to spend $280 billion (£158 billion) - nearly the total gross domestic product of Africa and four times the total amount of foreign aid - on support for agricultural producers.

The current round of WTO talks stalled in Geneva after wealthy countries failed to reach an agreement on lowering domestic agriculture subsidies and tariffs earlier this month.

Mark Vaile, the Australian trade minister and deputy prime minister, said the E.U. and "particularly France" were responsible for the deadlock because they had refused to accept a plan to cut European farm aid.

"They need to understand they are threatening the future of global trade and cheating millions of the world's poor out of new hope," Vaile said. "It's not enough for them to provide aid and debt relief when the benefits of liberalizing trade are so much greater."

An agreement in Hong Kong is supposed to pave the way for the conclusion of the Doha development round next year, but deadlock on farm subsidies has threatened to scupper the entire process.

The E.U. - generally seen as the villain of the piece by developing countries and the U.S. - is working on a second and final offer this week. The move follows what the U.S. described as its "bold" proposal for trimming the most damaging of its multi-billion dollar agricultural subsidies by up to 60% and phasing them out within a decade.

Development activists say the U.S. scheme is double-edged because it insists on poor countries opening up their manufacturing sectors, a step that could lead to the sectors' collapse in the face of foreign competition.

The U.S. plan has put the E.U. on the spot, and it has struggled to come up with a unified position. France believes the latest round of common agricultural policy reforms - which cut the link between the level of subsidy and the amount farmers produce - went far enough, and is refusing to budge.

The idea of cancelling the Hong Kong meeting has been proposed, but Australia has rejected it. "I don't believe the meeting should be postponed, even if the E.U. does not put forward a better proposal," Vaile said. "I believe the E.U. and France would need to account for their actions before the parliament of world opinion."

Wolfowitz increased pressure on the industrialized world when he said the temporary discomfort of industrialized countries in getting rid of farm subsidies was "nothing compared with the daily discomfort and deprivation faced by the world's poorest people".


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: doharound; eu; farm; freetrade; globalsocialism; hongkong; nationalsecurity; redistribuion; socialism; wealth; wolfowitz; worldbank; wto
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To: Casloy

About time someone noticed the emperor wasn't wearing any clothes. Farm subsidies are socialism and wrong.


Yes, but eliminating subsidies is Marxist and also wrong.

(At least according to some people)


241 posted on 10/26/2005 1:52:17 PM PDT by durasell
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To: expat_panama; headsonpikes
Instead of trading with someone because they have something we want, we are forced to trade with them in order to reduce their poverty? You say "free trade" is "poverty reduction" and "free traders" have set the system up so the global socialist WTO picks which country will get to have its poverty reduced by brokering the agreements.

There doesn't appear to be anything "free" about "free trade", since citizens have no say, and American taxpayers foot the bill for the World Bank and the WTO-- the name "free trade" is such a phony construct. But I have to say you've given us all a great definition for "free trade", global socialist brokered "poverty reduction". Thanks.
242 posted on 10/26/2005 1:52:30 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Casloy

Again the topic is the marxist rhetoric of the "free traders".


243 posted on 10/26/2005 1:53:53 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Casloy

Is food a necessity or a luxury for individuals? For a nation?


244 posted on 10/26/2005 1:54:49 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer; expat_panama; headsonpikes
Instead of trading with someone because they have something we want, we are forced to trade with them in order to reduce their poverty?

This from someone who thinks it's okay to force Americans to buy sugar from high cost American producers to reduce their poverty.

Consistency was never your strong suit, was it?

245 posted on 10/26/2005 1:55:51 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, Krugman and the New York Times please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Is food a necessity or a luxury for individuals?

Depends where you shop.


246 posted on 10/26/2005 1:55:53 PM PDT by durasell
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You really should stop making personal comments. It damages credibility, especially since you really know nothing about the people you are commenting on.


247 posted on 10/26/2005 1:56:52 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Toddsterpatriot
favors ever larger government interference in the economy

It is you "free traders" who have taken money from the American people to create a plethora of international buracracies and unconstiutional public/private partnerships. The "free trader" whitehouse has spent more money on entitlements global and domestic, than any other adminstration. Why don't you go after the administration that is abusing the taxpayer?
248 posted on 10/26/2005 2:00:38 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: A. Pole

After this exchange, I am left in the position of merely taking consolation in your tagline:

Sorel: "Nothing, [except ...] gives greater pleasure, than being misunderstood by blunderheads."


249 posted on 10/26/2005 2:02:10 PM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Yet you never address the fundamental issue of a global socialist organization determining who gets to trade gold based on their level of poverty.


250 posted on 10/26/2005 2:02:23 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Farmers are the biggest welfare queens in this country.

I'd like to be able to purchase something that has real sugar and real lard/butter in it for a change.


251 posted on 10/26/2005 2:02:36 PM PDT by Seamoth
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To: durasell

Well that was edifying.


252 posted on 10/26/2005 2:03:19 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

To paraphrase one of resident trade "experts" on this very thread, "You are really unbelievable. A real conservative would know about the policies he is attacking--."


253 posted on 10/26/2005 2:06:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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. . . one of our resident "experts' . . . .
254 posted on 10/26/2005 2:11:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I am sure everyone on the forum would like to hear your explanation of Amber boxes. Be generous and explain.


255 posted on 10/26/2005 2:11:47 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
trade with them in order to reduce their poverty?

Most people exchange their time for money and vice versa in order to reduce their own poverty and I see this as a good way of doing things.  Most people also exercise their power I to make sure their government does what they want, and the more people choose to do without government help, the richer they get.

Is this something we really disagree on?

256 posted on 10/26/2005 2:15:14 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Seamoth
the biggest welfare queens in this country.

are the employers who use illegal alien labor, who are here courtesy of our "free trader" white house. If you want to get into a discussion about how much illegal aliens cost the taxpayer and society, I would be happy to do so on another thread or in freepmail. However, the discussion is about why "free traders" are using marxist rhetoric to coerce Americans into ponying up for their global welfare scheme. I am really more interested in your thoughts on that.
257 posted on 10/26/2005 2:15:51 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

I think you should move to the EU, where they follow the protectionist economic model to their great success.


258 posted on 10/26/2005 2:23:13 PM PDT by Seamoth
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To: hedgetrimmer

On general principle, I refuse to spend $4.00 for a tomato or $100 for a pair of sneakers.


259 posted on 10/26/2005 2:23:37 PM PDT by durasell
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