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Is Birmingham [England] on the brink of a race war?
www.timesonine.co.uk ^ | October 25, 2005 | Steve Bird

Posted on 10/25/2005 5:48:08 AM PDT by reelfoot

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To: reelfoot

Better a Hindu doctor or Colombian banker than a fat, trailer dwelling hillbilly.


61 posted on 10/25/2005 8:46:00 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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To: maica

Not being British, I'm afraid I can't help you out here.

Perhaps someone else can.


62 posted on 10/25/2005 9:14:48 AM PDT by Restorer (Illegitimati non carborundum)
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To: Clemenza

"Better a Hindu doctor or Colombian banker than a fat, trailer dwelling hillbilly."

. . . or a fat, government sucking, Section 8 housing immigrant.


63 posted on 10/25/2005 9:21:41 AM PDT by reelfoot
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To: Mulch
Well, because it's so in some circles, doesn't mean it is so. Diversity and multi-culturalism are 2 dissimilar ideas. Diversity is much like the different kinds of candy you get in an assorted bag of candy. You always get something different, yet tasty. You have your chocolates, your butterscotches, your lemon drops, your sour apple candies and your licorice all in the same bag. Some of the taste of the butterscotch would meld into the licorice. Some of the lemon drops would infuse into the chocolates, and they all become somewhat different candies, but at the same time, they're all candy.

Multi-culturalism would be like the candy store owner putting a mint leaf, a rubarhb stalk and a crab apple in the assorted bag and asking it not to be sweetened in any way possible and making you accept it as candy. That bag is no longer assorted candy. It's now just a bag of just random food, and not candy anymore.

You can still make the mint leaf and the rubarhb stalk and a crab apple candified in the assorted bag and taste quite well, but the fact that they're being kept out makes the bag means that they will never become sweet and make for great candy.

Much like how in our country's history, you had your Itallians, your Jews and your Japanese intergrating themselves into American society, each bringing karate, bagels and pasta to the American mainstream, but at the same time, these people are Americanized in society. I believe there was a Republican Japanese American congressman from California at one time. They were the mint leaves that became part of that assorted candy bag.

64 posted on 10/25/2005 9:37:51 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Future Minnesota Refugee)
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To: TypeZoNegative
I remember being told in public school that America was not a melting pot but rather a kaleidescope. Conservatives reject the kaleidescope view, believing it simply creates division and conflict between groups in a society whereas the melting pot view creates unity around an "American" identity.
65 posted on 10/25/2005 10:14:41 AM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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To: Mulch

To liberals, anything is a kaleidescope. Look at all the acid they take.


66 posted on 10/25/2005 10:34:57 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Future Minnesota Refugee)
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To: TypeZoNegative

LOL


67 posted on 10/25/2005 10:45:43 AM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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To: reelfoot

AMEN!


68 posted on 10/25/2005 12:10:49 PM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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To: Clemenza
1. Germany and Scandanavia are overrun with Muslims and Multiculturalists. What gives you the idea that they "preserve their culture."
2. America does NOT have a "blood and soil" culture as they do in Japan. It never has.

1. I have very good, long time friends in Sweden. Sweden backed off allowing a lot of Mulsims quite a while ago. They learned their lesson. So, according to my friends (doctors, engineers, teachers, etc.) and their families, Sweden ISN'T overrun with Muslims. It never really was. When 500 Muslims were present it SEEMED like more because they (Turks, actually) were so very, very, very different from Swedes and stood out like sore (very sore) thumbs.

I was just in Germany. I was there for a month and visited about 10 cities and spoke with tons of people. I kept asking, "Where are all the Muslims? I had heard....."
Well, Germany, with its 82 million people, isn't overrun either. It's hype, all hype, probably media hype.

You view of Germany and Sweden is incorrect, but understandable, considering the huge volume of U.S. hate-filled anti-Arab/Muslim/Palestinian rhetoric that has been pouring out of the blogs, magazines and Internet for the past several years. I don't know about Norway and Denmark. Maybe THEY are "overrun."

They do preserve their culture because in those countries they still speak, read, write and post signs in THEIR language. They DON'T worship at the altar of diversity. They don't hate themselves, their history, culture, traditions or religion the way so many self-hating American leftists, multiculturalists, secularists and athiests do.

2. True. MOST countries of the world ARE NOT based on immigrants, like we are and MOST counties of the world ARE homogeneous and work hard at preserving what they believe to be their own, usually superior-to-others, culture. We are one of the few countries on the planet that IS immigrant based. We are, by nature, multi-ethnic, NOT homogeneous, and therefore prone to the problems of NOT being homogeneous. This WAS bound to happen to us when we got so many millions of non-European, non-Christian immigrants.

69 posted on 10/26/2005 6:24:13 AM PDT by starfish923
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To: Dionysius
Here is a nice definition of diversity spouted by a black St. Louis alderwomwn to her white colleagues: "Diversity doesn't mean I have to listen to you, it means you have to listen to me." This is diversity I could certainly live without.

Amen to that.
She sounds pretty much like an elitist herself. Elitism, which includes all the "isms" and bigotry, is almost always a two-way street. It's also based on one of those seven deadly sins -- "pride." And, we do know where pride goeth. Lol.

70 posted on 10/26/2005 6:29:31 AM PDT by starfish923
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