[Hodar]

Some things are observable, and observation does not support the theory that everything degenerates into chaos.

Consider a cloud of Hydrogen; instead of homogeniously spreading throughout the galaxy, it forms a cloud. The colective gravity of this cloud attracts other Hydrogen atoms; eventually the gravity causes this could to condense into a STAR (dis-order into order). The Star burns with nuclear Fission, until the star consumes the fissionable material, then turns into a Neutron Star (more order), this star then explodes, spewing more sophisticated molecules (ie. atomic weight greater than Hydrogen), which then form planets (again more order).

Or, biologically speaking, Dinosaurs were primitive comared to early mammals. Early mammals became more sophisticated (compare primitive hearts found in reptiles to the hearts in mammals).

Simply stated, Intelligent Design is a quantifiable, verifiable, observable fact.

[chrisg2001]

Stars don't use nuclear fission, they use fusion. Solar systems don't form in any way that resmbles your assertion about exploding neutron stars, so forgive me if I ignore whatever point you were trying to make in the first 2 paragraphs

In what way were dinosaurs more "primitive" than contemporaneous mammals? The only fossilized dinosaur heart known is four-chambered, as bird and mammal hearts are (you could find this in 2 seconds with google).

Please post the quantifiable (meaning measurement, math and numbers) facts of intelligent design as an explanation for biology, how they were verified, and how they were observed.
AFAIK NO elements of the intelligent design "theory" have ever been applied to any real biological system, observation, or measurement.

[Coyoteman]

Or, biologically speaking, Dinosaurs were primitive comared to early mammals. Early mammals became more sophisticated (compare primitive hearts found in reptiles to the hearts in mammals).

Simply stated, Intelligent Design is a quantifiable, verifiable, observable fact.

Whoe! Back up the turnip truck! You lost me there. How did you get from the reptile vs. mammal heart design to ID? Is this one of those equations with lots of numbers, followed by "Then a Miracle Happened," followed by lots more numbers?

If not, you have let out a step. Try this one again, slower this time.

[Gondring]

You are confusing elements of the system with the system as a whole. Besides, I just heard ID defended today (Teaching of Intelligent Design in Public Schools, by AEI on C-SPAN) by raising the idea that flagellum degenerated into a secreter rather than the other way around. Which way is this to be argued?

[little jeremiah]

None so blind as those who don't want to see.