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How staged sex crime fooled Supreme Court
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 24, 2005 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 10/24/2005 12:27:04 PM PDT by Hunterb

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To: Paul C. Jesup
The Pharaohs married their brothers and sisters. With the exception of one generation or two, as far as we know, there were no recorded deformities.

Actually, there are more recorded deformed and/or genetically disposed diseases ( hemophilia ) of the progeny of European royal cousins.

81 posted on 10/24/2005 1:22:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Paul C. Jesup

So you would prefer to have government in your bedroom?


don't really need it, I have gun in hand


82 posted on 10/24/2005 1:22:12 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
You forgot one thing. Hetrosexual sex can transmit HIV from one person to another person. (sarcasm) So, shall you make all sex illegal...

In the context you presented your arguement, it is a very valid arguement. Birth Defects also occur in non-incest cases.

So, shall YOU make all sex illegal?

83 posted on 10/24/2005 1:22:29 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: dmz
I'm sorry, but that may be the silliest comment I've read today on FR

Thank you. That's the nicest thing anyone's said all day.

The police didn't come to watch a peep-show. They came to find a man with a gun. The butt-pirates planned for their arrival, knew they were coming and continued their activity in their presence. They made this an exhibition.

Unless we're going to apply a standard that cops have less rights to not view this depravity than the rest of us, this was a display for public showing.

84 posted on 10/24/2005 1:23:26 PM PDT by pgyanke (A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.)
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To: rdb3

Again. No.

I can't say I'm an expert on the topic, but it's pretty clear to me that the fight is to keep you out of their bedrooms.

Would heteros having sex in their bedroom have been arrested under the same circumstances, or would the cops have done what they should have done in this case, to wit: Nothing (as in no person threatening anyone else with a firearm) to see here, move along.


85 posted on 10/24/2005 1:24:00 PM PDT by dmz
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To: VRWCmember
For the 4th amendment to apply to this issue, you would have to have a situation where the government entered without probable cause and found an illegal activity going on.

What part of: secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, do you not understand...

86 posted on 10/24/2005 1:24:11 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: sure_fine

Not necessarily, since various kinds of sexual deviants often like to do their thing in public or in front of others...yuck.

But you're right, it was obvious right from the start this was a setup.


87 posted on 10/24/2005 1:24:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Rodney King
What's the story?

I think the only point to be made is that it's tough to rely on a privacy argument if they in fact wanted the police to witness the act. I don't think the constitutionality of it is affected, but their standing to make the argument on which they relied is altered.
88 posted on 10/24/2005 1:25:10 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: andyk
I think the only point to be made is that it's tough to rely on a privacy argument if they in fact wanted the police to witness the act. I don't think the constitutionality of it is affected, but their standing to make the argument on which they relied is altered.

I see, thanks.

89 posted on 10/24/2005 1:26:11 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
This has less than nothing at all to do with me. All I did was correct your erroneously stated, factless post.

You can't state, as you did, as a fact, that which is patently false and then expect everyone to swallow it as whole clothe.

90 posted on 10/24/2005 1:26:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: vikzilla
I thought the destinction between paid LE and innocent school children was obvious.

I used hyperbole, sure. However, show me where in the law the cops don't have the same rights as the rest of us. If I were lured into this trap, you can bet I would seek prosecution.

I guess the Lifestyle nazis such as yourself should never be underestimated in their fervent need to overstate any situation.

Geez. Talk about hyperbole...

91 posted on 10/24/2005 1:27:13 PM PDT by pgyanke (A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.)
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To: dmz
In short, no.

I beg to differ.

Claiming that you are a homosexual, by definition, informs everyone around you that you are attracted to and prefer sexual relationships with members of your same sex (the word "gender" is a politically loaded term and I refuse to use it). Otherwise, how would anyone know that you are "gay," save for the really effeminate men or truly butch women?

Having said that, I completely agree that "gays" and "lesbians" should have same rights as everyone else. I do not think that it is the government's place to regulate the actions of two or more adults entered into consentingly.


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.

92 posted on 10/24/2005 1:28:28 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: rdb3
That begs the question: Doesn't the very definition of "homosexual" (and the fight for "homosexual rights") put everyone into their bedrooms?

Yes, that is the point!!! Teaching Kindergarten kids about "diversity" is exposing them to the behavior of homosexuals.

The gay mafia is out to normalize their sick, perverted, hedonistic, and disordered lifestyle through indoctrination in the schools and through their clubs in high school and esp. through the courts!

93 posted on 10/24/2005 1:28:34 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Paul C. Jesup

" The government has no right to regulate sexual acts between two consenting adults."

The government claims to have a right to regulate what you can put into your own body and they will put you in jail if you put stuff on their list in there. If they can regulate weed, they can regulate buggery. Truth is, they don't REALLY have the right to regulate either, but they regulate nonetheless.


94 posted on 10/24/2005 1:28:46 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: LowOiL
In the context you presented your arguement, it is a very valid arguement. Birth Defects also occur in non-incest cases.

This is why the bride and groom have blood tests before they get married, to check to see if their blood types will not conflict with each other if they chose to have children.

So, shall YOU make all sex illegal?

You are the ones who want to make sex between two consenting adults illegal, not me.

96 posted on 10/24/2005 1:29:01 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: bk1000
The government claims to have a right to regulate what you can put into your own body and they will put you in jail if you put stuff on their list in there. If they can regulate weed, they can regulate buggery. Truth is, they don't REALLY have the right to regulate either, but they regulate nonetheless.

(sarcasm) I take it that you support torching the U.S. Constitution as well...

97 posted on 10/24/2005 1:30:11 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: VRWCmember

It's also obvious to anyone who doesn't support the "gay" agenda (or who has not been hitting the bong regularly) that the sodomy laws were not actually on the books to prevent people from doing whatever they do in private, it was to KEEP it private. Out of the bushes, out of the parks, not in parades, not on the streets, not in public bathrooms, not in schools, not on stage, etc etc etc.


98 posted on 10/24/2005 1:30:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Hunterb

Wow.


99 posted on 10/24/2005 1:30:33 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Paul C. Jesup
So you would prefer to have government in your bedroom?

Depends. Is government a chick?

Is she cute?

100 posted on 10/24/2005 1:31:20 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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