'Family honor' murder in Galilee [Druse Girl Was Dating Muslim]

YNet News ^ | Oct. 24, 2005 | Ahiya Raved

[Alouette]

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[E. Pluribus Unum]

Would a "Druze girl" be Jewish?

Do Jewish people engage in "honor" killings?

It's the first I've heard of it.

[Vaquero]

in google the impression I had was they are Shiite....

[babygene]

Founded in the early 11th century, the Druze faith is based largely on the dogma of Hamzah ibn Ali ibn Ahmad, a minister of the Fatimid Caliph al-Hakim. Based initially of the doctrines of Shi'a Islam, the Druze believe that, through Hakim, God made a final appeal to humanity to redeem themselves before He returned to rule. The Druze are found primarily in Lebanon, Syria, Israel and Jordan.

[Vaquero]

wikipedia The Druze (Arabic: duruzī درزي, pl. durūz دروز, Hebrew: druzim דרוזים) are a small and distinct religious community residing mainly in Lebanon, Israel, Syria, Turkey and Jordan (small communities of expatriates also live in the United States, Canada, Latin America, Australia, and Europe). They use the Arabic language and follow a social pattern very similar to the Arabs of the region. They are not considered Muslim by most Muslims in the region, although most Druze say that their religion is Islamic. Most Druze consider themselves to be Arabs [1], although some Israeli Druze do not. There are about 1 million Druze worldwide, the vast majority in the Middle East [2].

[Alouette]

Druse are Arabs whose religion is "not Judaism" "not Christian" and "not Islam."

[yldstrk]

Christian.

[zerosix]

Definitely not Christian nor Jew.

[yldstrk]

Remember when Druze militia went through the refugee camp and the current Israeali Prime Minister whose name escape me now, was the General who let them in? I was just a kid, but those scenes were seared in my memory.

[Khepera]

ok so why arrest her boyfriend? Seems obvious he didn't do it.

[jocon307]

"Seems obvious he didn't do it."

Maybe they are not sure who did it. She wouldn't be the first gal killed by the bf.

[Question_Assumptions]

Actually, they were Christian from the Phalange Party who carried out those massacres, in theory taking revenge for the assassination of Bashir Gemayel (who was actually assassinated by another Christian faction -- do some searches on Elie Hobeika if you want more details). The Phalange is not the Druze. Oddly enough, the Phalange party, which worked fairly closely with Israel during this period, was originally inspired by the Fascist parties of Europe and, in particular, the Nazis.

[Lady Heron]

Off-shoot of islam.

[Old Seadog]

According to the dictionary Druze is a religious sect of Muslim.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Quite a few people on this thread have told me that.

[Nachum]

These people are certifiably insane.

[Nathan Zachary]

I don't believe this story, but I would if it was the other way around. I suspect it's a plant to make muslims the victim, a common tactic. She was probably raped and murdered by a muslim, and of course the muslim "police" turn it into something else.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I don't believe this story...

Me either.

[Heyworth]

I don't believe this story, but I would if it was the other way around.

I think the thing to remember is that honor killings aren't so much a religious thing as a tribal thing that predates Islam. Islam certainly doesn't help matters, but a lot of what goes on in the Middle East isn't specified in the Koran. It's the same with the way they treat their women, keeping them in seclusion and the like--it's cultural and tribal, not religious and was being done long before Mohammed came on the scene.

And before anyone says anything, I'm hardly a defender of Islam. I'm just saying that these people would be doing the same thing whatever their religion. Islam just organizes them.