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Charges expected soon over CIA leak
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/10/24/charges_expected_soon_over_cia_leak/ ^

Posted on 10/24/2005 1:40:04 AM PDT by kcvl

Obstruction, perjury cited among options By Adam Entous, Reuters | October 24, 2005 WASHINGTON -- Federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald seems to be laying the groundwork for indictments this week over the disclosure of a covert CIA agent's identity, including possible charges of perjury and obstruction of justice, according to lawyers and other sources involved in the case. In a preview of how Republicans would counter charges against top administration officials by Fitzgerald, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas brushed aside an indictment for perjury -- rather than for the alleged underlying crime of disclosing a CIA operative's identity -- as a ''technicality." Speaking on NBC's ''Meet the Press," she suggested Fitzgerald may be trying to show that ''two years of investigation was not a waste of time and dollars." Fitzgerald's investigation has focused largely on Karl Rove, President Bush's top political adviser, and I. Lewis ''Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, and their conversations about CIA operative Valerie Plame with reporters in June and July of 2003. Fitzgerald is expected to give final notice as early as today to officials facing charges and may convene the grand jury tomorrow to deliver a summary of the case and ask for approval of the possible indictments, legal sources said. The grand jury is to expire Friday unless Fitzgerald extends it. Fitzgerald still could determine that there was insufficient evidence to bring charges, but the lawyers said that seemed unlikely.

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To: bvw
Obviously?

Amazing how many folks equate speculation with evidence.

21 posted on 10/24/2005 5:32:26 AM PDT by lugsoul ("They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors.")
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To: lugsoul

Yes. Stat.


22 posted on 10/24/2005 5:35:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: CyberAnt

The Republicans really should not put Kaye Bailey Hutchinson out as a spokesman. She seems nice enought, and that may be a problem, but she does not make the case very well for the Republicans.


23 posted on 10/24/2005 5:47:16 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: lugsoul

I don't think that there is much to see. From what I here, Plame was at a desk job in Langley at the agency, had her mug on the front of a magazine with Wilson, and on and on. She may have outed herself with that one.


24 posted on 10/24/2005 5:48:37 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: kcvl

What happened to what Robert Novak said, that it wasn't a 'partisan gun-slinger'- does the MSM forget that?????
How do they account for that??


25 posted on 10/24/2005 6:02:01 AM PDT by go-ken-go
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To: DooDahhhh
"From what I hear" means what a bunch of talking heads have said. No one in a position to know has said anything that consitutes evidence that her position was not covert. If she wasn't there will be evidence of that - but we haven't heard it yet.

As far as the VF article goes, it doesn't take much sense to recognize that it was done after her status was already published in the press.

26 posted on 10/24/2005 6:05:17 AM PDT by lugsoul ("They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors.")
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To: DooDahhhh
"I don't think that there is much to see."

The judges who reviewed the evidence presented by Fitz disagree. And there was at least enough to fill 8 redacted pages of the opinion.

27 posted on 10/24/2005 6:06:25 AM PDT by lugsoul ("They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors.")
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To: All

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Official - and unofficial - Washington was abuzz this weekend with the twin developments in the Valerie Plame/Flame/Miller/Libby/Rove case.

First there was the news that the Special Counsel in the case, Patrick Fitzgerald, has put up a web site (http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/) which he had not done for the first three years of the investigation.

That led everyone to assume that indictments will be announced this week causing Washington-based reporters to cancel any travel plans they may have made so they can be in their actual offices in Washington if and when this happens.

The second CIA-scandal-related development was the extremely rare peek into the newsroom at the New York Times and the increasing tensions between reporters and senior management over the whole Judith Miller deal.

Veteran Washington reporter Kit Seelye was assigned to write a piece about a memo that executive editor Bill Keller sent to the staff which said Ms. Miller had "mislead" the Times' Washington bureau chief as to whether she was one of the reporters involved in the leak at the outset.

Keller's memo also said he had not been aware of the "entanglement" of Ms. Miller and the Vice President's chief of staff, Scooter Libby.

"Entanglement" is a very charged, very provocative word which Mr. Keller must have used with the full knowledge of all the eyebrow-raising it would certainly trigger.

Miller understood what was being implied and denied, in a counter memo, any "personal, social, or other relationship" with Libby other an as a source.

This is not an esoteric inside-the-Beltway deal. It now seems likely that someone (or someoneS) will be indicted and the New York Times apparently believes it was conned by its own, Pulitzer Prize winning, reporter.

On Friday, the NY Times had, in the lead paragraph of its front-pager on the scandal, the following:
… Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the special counsel, is focusing on whether Karl Rove … and I. Lewis Libby Jr. … sought to conceal their actions and mislead prosecutors, lawyers involved in the case said Thursday.

Observers here (that's reporter-speak for reporters talking to other reporters, often at the bar in which the press filing center is located) are mulling over whether one of the "lawyers involved in the case" is Robert Bennett who is Judith Miller's lawyer, who is reportedly being paid by the NY Times.

The question overloading the local telephone lines on Friday was: If one of those lawyers is, in fact, Mr. Bennett how can he be used as an anonymous source (in a case which revolves around the misuse of anonymous sources) without disclosing who he is, and what his relationship is to the Times and Ms. Miller.

On the other hand, if Bennett was not one of the lawyers being referenced, why didn't the Times make that clear so that goofballs like me, who have nothing better to do than e-mail real reporters and ask them whether this makes any ethical sense at all, would not raise these uncomfortable questions.


28 posted on 10/24/2005 6:24:29 AM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Watery Tart

Well said! I'm so sick of the "maybes, the seems-to-be, the possibles, the potentials, the others behind the scenes, sources connected but not revealed, some say," fake journalism of these rabid pinko leftie scumbags. They haven't been right YET. No reason to think any of these fake articles are right, either.


29 posted on 10/24/2005 6:25:03 AM PDT by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: dsc
LOL:

Note to media headquarters: lie requires more repetition. The Digital Formacid-American community remains unconvinced.

30 posted on 10/24/2005 6:28:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (Protest a dem -- light your hair on fire -- and the MSM still won't take your picture.)
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To: CyberAnt

I think we're going to have to see what the prosecutor does. It is too easy to say "She was not an operative"--why did the CIA refer it to Justice, and why did Justice appoint a special counsel, if it was wrong on its face. Lets not kid ourselves.


31 posted on 10/24/2005 6:30:02 AM PDT by DCBill
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To: DCBill

Valerie Plame was exposed as a covert agent by Aldrich Ames many moons ago.


32 posted on 10/24/2005 6:34:13 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: DCBill
why did Justice appoint a special counsel, if it was wrong on its face

To avoid the appearance in an election year (remember the case started in 2003), of any wrong doing.
33 posted on 10/24/2005 6:36:43 AM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: massgopguy

Why did the CIA refer it to the Justice Dept? And then why did the Justice Dept. refer it to a Special Prosecutor? And then why did a three-federal judge panel agree that serious crimes may have been committed?

Again, I'm saying lets wait and see. The easy answers being spouted out here are pablum, but don't provide me any comfort.


34 posted on 10/24/2005 6:37:18 AM PDT by DCBill
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To: Drammach
Recently I have been wondering if this is all just a ploy, a diversion of Dem resources, leading them on a fruitless quest.. Designed to waste their time..

When the democrats run in 2006 they will be saying that this administration was beset by endless investigations and indictments, changes need to be made to stop the corruption.

The democrats don't have any ideas but as long as they continue to float allegations and then demand investigations, they are wasting our time as the majority party.

35 posted on 10/24/2005 6:40:06 AM PDT by oldbrowser (A living, breathing constitution is a usurpation of the people's sovereignty.)
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To: oldbrowser
When the democrats run in 2006 they will be saying that this administration was beset by endless investigations and indictments, changes need to be made to stop the corruption.

And they will have the full resources of Soros, Lewis, et.al (all the billionaires) at their disposal. And of course the "evil bad pubbies" will be constantly bad mouthed in the MSM.

36 posted on 10/24/2005 10:21:30 AM PDT by p23185
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To: kcvl

Perjury and obstruction of justice sound to me like charges that would be made against reporters (and possibly Joe Wilson), not administration officials.


37 posted on 10/24/2005 10:26:31 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: kcvl
The lefts premise hear is that the WH outed Plame to embarrass Wilson.

Anyone ever hear an explanation on how this would embarrass Wilson?

I think the likely outcome is that Rove and Libby will possible get indicted for perjury and/or obstruction in the investigation of an event that in and of itself was not a crime. Entrapment anyone?

38 posted on 10/24/2005 10:30:58 AM PDT by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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To: DCBill

Well .. I understand what you're saying .. but the Washington social circles KNEW she wasn't covert.

She and her husband were fund raisers for the Clintons. She was well known as working at the CIA. She had been an "operative" years ago .. but she hasn't been an operative for many years. Also .. the law says that you have to "knowingly" expose someone .. so if you say Valerie works at the CIA and you don't know she's an "operative" - then you're not outing her.

I'm not kidding myself. THERE IS NO THERE THERE!!!!

This is just another attempt by the democrats to discredit the Iraq war. It won't matter how good it gets in Iraq - the democrats will be against it. Fine! But .. they will not win national elections if they are not willing to defend America.


39 posted on 10/24/2005 11:01:16 AM PDT by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: Beckwith
If he indites over revealing the name of an analyst, that would be easy to fight in court IMO, so the action would have to be elsewhere.
40 posted on 10/24/2005 11:06:33 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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