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No God But Jehovah, DespiteWhat Bush Says At RamadanBanquet
Koenig's International News ^ | 10-19-05 | Bill Wilson

Posted on 10/23/2005 6:55:51 AM PDT by truthandlife

President George W. Bush has terribly misspoken about the true word of God and is likely to experience consequences in response to his errant remarks and beliefs that were pronounced publicly at the fifth annual Ramadan Banquet held in the State Dining Room at the White House.

Some quotes of note: “We must also firmly oppose all who commit evil in God's name.”…” I have great confidence in the future of this nation, and in the future of the Muslim world.”…” As we celebrate this special Iftaar, we renew the ties of friendship that bind all those who trace their faith back to God's call on Abraham.”…” Ramadan is the holiest time of the Muslim year. According to Islamic teaching, this month commemorates the revelation of God's word to the Prophet Muhammad in the form of the Koran. For more than a billion Muslims, Ramadan is a time of heartfelt prayer and togetherness. It is a time of fasting and personal sacrifice. It's a time to give thanks for God's blessings through works of charity.”

These were not the words of an Islamic cleric, but rather the words of the President of the United States as he welcomed Muslim leaders to the White House for his fifth annual Ramadan Banquet in the State Dining Room. The President initiated the “Iftaar” to foster better relations between Americans and Islam after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It has become a tradition at the White House.

To the poltically correct this is a wonderful ecumenical, inter-faith outreach, but, Biblically it is a form of abomination in the very least, if not blasphemy. The President has made extraordinarily false claims equating the god of Islam with the one true God as he receives Islam rather than being salt and light to it.

The President has terribly misspoken. Allah and Jehovah are not the same. Muhammad, did not receive a “revelation of God’s word,” as was so aptly put by the President. Muhammad’s so-called revelation came thousands of years after God’s Biblical revelations and hundreds of years after Christ. Muhammad made up Allah and wrote a book designed not to foster friendship, but rather to continue enmity between Jews and Arabs. Muhmmad has perpetrated the creulist hoax upon millions of people—they believe in a non-existant god that will only result in the eternity of hell. That any Christian, let alone a Christian President dare claim Muhammad received a revelation from “God” is bordering heresey.

There is no other God than Jehovah. In Exodus 20:3, God commanded, “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” And in Ezekiel 3:18, God says, “When I say unto the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand.”

The President is ignoring the word of God to patronize a false religion when he professes to know the truth, and the blood shall be on his hand. These are very dangerous proclamations made by the President because they not only reflect upon him, but also upon the nation he leads.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Islam
KEYWORDS: allah; bush; christianity; islam; jehovah
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To: MineralMan

Judgement of a nation for their leaders unbelief is a historical fact.


21 posted on 10/23/2005 7:20:36 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: truthandlife

President Bush needs to put the crack pipe away and stop pandering to the Muslims. He sounds foolish. We are at war with this "religion" BECAUSE of their beliefs.


22 posted on 10/23/2005 7:24:00 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: lucysmom
Do Buddhists believe that Buddha is a god?

No they don't. Buddha was a highly respected teacher.
Buddhism couldn't even be considered a religion if not for their believe in the supernatural, ie: reincarnation.

23 posted on 10/23/2005 7:24:12 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: truthandlife

Muhammadanism = desert based pagan cult
Muhammadanism = revanchism


24 posted on 10/23/2005 7:26:04 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: RaceBannon
Just thinking here that if the President of the US kisses Allah's butt then a hurricane comes ~ then, why is it all those Moslem countries are dry as a bone?!

Tough one, eh?

25 posted on 10/23/2005 7:27:04 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: RaceBannon

"Judgement of a nation for their leaders unbelief is a historical fact."

And so? President Bush is in his second term. He cannot run again. What does that judgment mean to him?


26 posted on 10/23/2005 7:27:38 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: truthandlife

Say what you want about Rudy Giuliani regarding abortion. Rudy would NEVER be caught dead uttering such despicable words as did George W. Bush at this Satanic gatheric. NEVER.


27 posted on 10/23/2005 7:28:16 AM PDT by montag813
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To: DTogo

I wonder, if at this dinner, they all sang "We Are The World"?


28 posted on 10/23/2005 7:28:42 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: PeteB570

"There is a way which seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death." Proverbs 14:12


29 posted on 10/23/2005 7:28:52 AM PDT by dmw
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
and Mohammed dwells in Hell

Actually, he parks cars at Yankee Stadium

30 posted on 10/23/2005 7:30:34 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: truthandlife

It's the job of all non islamic religious leaders to speak out about the abomination of Allah.

It drives me crazy that certain religious leaders seem stuck on irrelevant social issues.


31 posted on 10/23/2005 7:30:57 AM PDT by tkathy (Do-nothings are not the ones who have saved oppressed people from tyranny.)
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To: truthandlife

Bush sucking up to Muslums and their false god is enough to make a Rino and Bushbot hurl.


32 posted on 10/23/2005 7:33:20 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: dmw

I do find the Christian faith interesting.

Like how everybody who reads their version of the Bible finds things that only they see.

How so many of the Christian variations say only their version is the right one and only they will get in the Pearly Gates of Heaven.

I believe what I believe and am at peace with my God and myself. Its between me and the "Big Guy". Nobody in this world has a say in the matter except maybe on the timing of the meeting.


33 posted on 10/23/2005 7:37:29 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: muawiyah

dry as a bone and no fresh water, no civilization to speak of, and being used as pawns by the rest of the world, living a false religion that kills their own...

that is a judgement in itself

besides, judgement begins at the House of God, that means those that are true believers get judged first, unbelievers next


34 posted on 10/23/2005 7:39:34 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: MineralMan

That judgement is meant for us

for us to fix ourselves first.


35 posted on 10/23/2005 7:40:16 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon
His statements prove he does NOT believe the God of the Bible is God.

Don't the Arabs claim that Ishmael--Abraham's son--is their forefather? If this is the case, it would seem like their Allah is the same as our God. Maybe the rest of their theology is mixed up, but the original deity would seem to be the same one. Just wondering...
36 posted on 10/23/2005 7:41:42 AM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: truthandlife
Allah and Jehovah are not the same. Muhammad, did not receive a “revelation of God’s word,” as was so aptly put by the President.

I think it's possible to concede that in some way, Muslims do indeed worship the One True God, even if they badly misunderstand him and man's relationship to him.

It goes without saying that the revelation of Christian Scripture and the Qu'ran cannot be reconciled. They can't both be right. The Qu'ran denies that Christ is God and denies the Resurrection. Jesus is reduced merely to a very great prophet.

For all that, the president's words, however well intended, go overboard. It's possible to show respect for Muslim beliefs - nay, even to admire some facets of their faith (most Westerners could learn from their intense devotion to prayer, for example) - without giving away the theological ranch.

37 posted on 10/23/2005 7:46:30 AM PDT by The Iguana
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To: MineralMan
Muslims believe that the Judeo-Christian deity and Allah are the same entity. President Bush is addressing their beliefs, not yours.

Bukhari:V4B55N657 “Allah’s Messenger said, ‘Isa (Jesus), the son of Mariam, will shortly descend amongst you Muslims and will judge mankind by the law of the Qur’an. He will break the cross and kill the swine [Jews] and there will be no Jizyah tax taken from non-Muslims. Money will be so abundant no one will accept it. So you may recite this Holy Verse: “Isa (Jesus) was just a human being before his death. On the Day of Resurrection he (Jesus) will be a witness against the Christians.”’”

38 posted on 10/23/2005 7:49:14 AM PDT by PokeyJoe (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those that don't.)
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To: Kerretarded

What if we are all right?

Then God is a liar.


39 posted on 10/23/2005 7:49:17 AM PDT by roylene
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To: Puppage

"Actually, he parks cars at Yankee Stadium"

I thought he drove a cab. He sure did the last time I was in NYC.


40 posted on 10/23/2005 7:50:26 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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