Posted on 10/23/2005 6:55:51 AM PDT by truthandlife
As long as President Bush panders to Islam of ANY kind we will always be accepting partial responsibility for terrorism. Let Islam clean up their own back yard: Syria, Iran, Sudan, etc. etc. etc. If they truly are a "religion of peace" the only way we will find out is when we force them to deal with it. I'm sick of American blood being shed for these people. "Islam is a peaceful religion BUT ... Is Islam a "religion of peace"? OK. Let them PROVE IT. Otherwise all of our arguments are nothing more than mental masturbation and won't accomplish anything except more bloodshed, more "insurgents", more "terrorists", more pandering to "peaceful" Muslims, and more arguments and ridiculous discussions on threads like this ... /rant
AMEN on Sunday
Good for you! Your comments are spot on! This is a republic, not a theocracy; he is the elected president, not the chief priest or mullah!
As for the rest of you, I just returned from the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostomos, the oldest liturgy regularly used in Christianity; the same Liturgy my family has been attending for the past 1700 years or so. My people also spent hundreds of years under the heel of the Mohammadens. We understand Christianity, put together the canon of Scripture you all use and quote from and certainly understand what we Christians are up against with Islam. But here's the truth, when I go to Liturgy in an Arab Christian Church, I pray to "Allah", when I pray the prayer of +Isaac the Syrian, I do full body prostrations...just like Orthodox people have been doing for 1700 or more years! And from an Orthodox Christian pov, the president said absolutely nothing which is blasphemous or inappropriate. If you want to blast him, blast him for that idiotic remark about Islam being the Religion of Peace, but not for this stuff! Your comments do no credit to Christianity.
Actually, they don't. And they think that any reference to Jesus as divine is blasphemy and in a muslim country, they would probably kill you for such a statement.
"Muslims believe that the Judeo-Christian deity and Allah are the same entity.
Actually, they don't. And they think that any reference to Jesus as divine is blasphemy and in a muslim country, they would probably kill you for such a statement."
"As for the rest of you, I just returned from the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostomos, the oldest liturgy regularly used in Christianity; the same Liturgy my family has been attending for the past 1700 years or so. "
Thx for the scolding. But you are still wrong. I have had plenty of muslim friends and they most certainly do not believe that their Allah is the same deity as the God of the Jews and Israel.
For a godless atheist, you treat others as I would expect.
Either he speaks the truth or he doesn't. You can't say one thing and then believe something else. One of them is a lie.
How true! What they need is a lesson from a know-it-all non-believer. That ought to fix 'em right up.
"How true! What they need is a lesson from a know-it-all non-believer. "
One need not be a Christian to know the history of Christianity. It's all pretty much available to anyone who wishes to study it, as are the scriptures of Christianity.
You'd be surprised how much knowledge the atheists around here have of various religions.
"How little most Christians know about the history of their faith."
Western Christians tend to be rather "provincial" in their views (and sometimes not a little chauvinistic too, unfortunately)! :)
Have a great weekend...or what's left of it.
Bill Clinton had the good sense not to celebrate Ramadan and did not offend Christians and Jews by making blasphemous remarks against the Triune God. Supporting false religions is not required of presidents in our constitution. I would much rather have him not say anything at all about religion than this pandering to false gods for political reasons. God's judgement will be upon him and this country for these idolatrous actions.
Here is another article on the subject:
"But Bush's annual Ramadan Moon dinner displays an almost breathtaking ignorance of Islam, one so profound it is difficult to believe that somebody in his administration would have pointed out some of the more salient truths about the religion of 'faith and family'.
Sura Anfal:12ff and Sura Muhammad:3ff command the beheading of unbelievers; Sura al-Nisa’:34ff allows for beating of one’s wives; verses 74ff and 94ff, promise great reward for those who die fighting for Allah; Sura al-Ma’idah:51 says, “Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.”
http://www.omegaletter.com/articles.asp?ArticleID=5770
I agree with most of what The President does, but not this.
There must be something one of us are missing about this religion of peace crap.
Gee, maybe he wants to avoid turning a a few thousand Jihadists into a few million?
"Bill Clinton had the good sense not to celebrate Ramadan and did not offend Christians and Jews by making blasphemous remarks against the Triune God."
"There must be something one of us are missing about this religion of peace crap."
Gee, maybe he wants to avoid turning a a few thousand Jihadists into a few million?"
There are better ways to do that than kissing their anus.
Appeasement isnt the answer and never will be.
He could be cordial at a distance and that would be enough for me. If they want to become jihadists they will find a way regardless. Pretending they are our best buds doesnt fool us or them. I do not fear offending them as you do.
LOL - that was funny.
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