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F&F Weekend: Julian Phillips' "Ebony & Ivory" Line Pulls Back Curtain on Racial Sensitivities
Fox & Friends Weekend
| governsleastgovernsbest
Posted on 10/23/2005 4:21:44 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:23:21 AM PDT
by
governsleastgovernsbest
(read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
What you describe sounds like it would be uncomfortable to watch.
The kooks calling in to C-SPAN's Washington Journal are giving me my entertainment this morning.
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:27:00 AM PDT
by
leadpenny
To: governsleastgovernsbest
I think it reflects the fact that it's probably difficult for white Americans to apreciate just how much race 'colors' everything for black Americans, how it lays just beneath the surface in many unexpected and seemingly unrelated ways.It does ly just below the surface often, and Julian's comment was cool. But......... not El Rushbo, for instance.
;-)
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:27:45 AM PDT
by
beyond the sea
(Gloria Borger is Andrea Mitchell on Peyote)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Oooops .........
It does lie just below the surface often, and Julian's comment was cool
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:28:46 AM PDT
by
beyond the sea
(Gloria Borger is Andrea Mitchell on Peyote)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Julian is a pain. I wish they could find a daytime show to move him. I watched the pm show with Mike Jerrick, this week and the lovely Huddy. It got him off of Fox Weekend shows... thank you, foxNews.
the day crew is best!
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:34:00 AM PDT
by
pageonetoo
(You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
To: beyond the sea
His comment made me think: most white FReepers sit there and watch Julian, and while not unaware of his race are judging him by what he says and how he acts. But all this time, Julian has been sitting there thinking - 'hey, I'm the black guy here.'
It's kind of sad, and I believe probably reflective of how many blacks feel in society. There still is a yawning racial divide in our country.
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:34:53 AM PDT
by
governsleastgovernsbest
(read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
I head it. I agree...it was very odd.
And you're right...Julian does tend to inject a lot of Liberal talking points into what he says on there.
I caught his quip about hurricanes and "global warming".
In the last few weeks I've noticed that if the other two think he's about to venture off topic...they tend to talk a little faster or talk over him.
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:39:55 AM PDT
by
txradioguy
(In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Eng. K.I.A. 25 April 2005)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Julian is the reason I don't watch the show. Let me know when he acts out of character - that will be noteworthy.
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:43:10 AM PDT
by
Bernard
(You can either deal with your situation or be a liberal about it.)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
There will be this racial divide in America until they quite overplaying it. It is injected into every walk of life daily and will not go away simply because it is used as a crutch and for political reasons to divide.
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:48:37 AM PDT
by
gunnedah
To: gunnedah
In this case, Julian wasn't using race as a crutch, or baselessly crying "racism." His comment was really apropos of nothing. It simply was a window on his soul - revealing how he seems himself. I thought it was telling, and sad.
To: governsleastgovernsbest
It's kind of sad, and I believe probably reflective of how many blacks feel in society. There still is a yawning racial divide in our country. It is very sad. When I see him, I must admit I have seen an insecurity and self-consciousness in him. I have spoken to you about that a few times before. His insecurity is palpable, whether it be about his race or not. It is a shame.
What was done to the blacks for centuries was terrible, and as you say, "there still is a yawning racial divide in our country".
I am often amazed at how well adapted some blacks are to the constant ongoing treatment......... like a relatively simple thing like the store clerk who follows around a totally innocent (but black) customer in a store, fearful of theft. I don't think I would handle it as well as many of the blacks.
We all gotta find a way to love each other. There is not much time left.
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:57:33 AM PDT
by
beyond the sea
(Gloria Borger is Andrea Mitchell on Peyote)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
I actually found myself feeling sorry for Phillips.
I've never understood that mentality.
I know I'm taking your comment a bit out of context, and inferring some, but this whole sensitivity that whites have about race when it comes to blacks seems a bit condescending.
Why would anyone "feel sorry" for a person because of their race?
Why have we sanitized any reference to race right out of terminology for "African-Americans"?
Past terms, "negro", "colored", "afro-american", and to a certain degree "black" have all been deemed offensive and replaced with "African-American", which unlike the other terms makes no reference to the physical attributes of the race, but instead refers only to two continents.
I get the sense that many whites feel that bringing attention to the non-white attributes in any way would offend them or hurt the feelings of non-white persons. It strikes me as a very odd "euro-centric" point of view. As if there is some undercurrent saying that being anything other than white is something to be ashamed of.
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:58:04 AM PDT
by
counterpunch
(SCOTUS interruptus - withdraw Miers now)
To: pageonetoo
That's one smart snake. :=)
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:58:11 AM PDT
by
Bob
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Julian makes for bad FNC viewing, period. I don't care if he's black, green, or purple, I still can't stand him. He's annoying and grating on the nerves. I turn on FNC before anything else every weekday morning, but avoid it like the plague on the weekends.
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posted on
10/23/2005 4:58:53 AM PDT
by
mtbopfuyn
(Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Julian lives and thinks in terms of race, which is typical of the liberal left. He views life through a racial prism. One on one, he's probably a nice guy. But, his racial sensitivity creates the impression that he's uncomfortable with who he is and this is what you are reacting to. Sadly, Julian perpetrates the racial stereotype Democrats and the media keep trying to shove down our throats.
It's easy to tell the difference between black liberals or conservatives on TV. Black conservatives talk issues, positions and solutions without regard to race. Black liberals have to inject race into every issue as part of the problem or solution.
To: pageonetoo
HA HA HA, the lovely ED Hill?
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posted on
10/23/2005 5:04:08 AM PDT
by
ThreePuttinDude
(..yep, thats right, I'm an infidel......so what....)
To: counterpunch
Do you remember when Kerry first started out his campaign?
He refered to his wife Terry, as african-american. He was immediatly chastised by the loyal lib Blacks that she was not an african-american, due to her skin color.
Ill not forget that one.
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posted on
10/23/2005 5:08:07 AM PDT
by
ThreePuttinDude
(..yep, thats right, I'm an infidel......so what....)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
I did not watch this morning but am glad this was brought up..Julian does not seem confertable to me in his roll on the morning weekend Fox show I never at first thought of him as a black man now he has been kinda racist on some of his remarks and also defensive when it come to one of the others talking about a black person even if that person is wrong. Julian will like most blacks take up for them just because they are black......I stopped watching Fox on weekend because it became more about the people and their private lives than about the news..
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posted on
10/23/2005 5:09:09 AM PDT
by
Beth528
To: governsleastgovernsbest
No offense but I have to disagree with your "yawning racial divide in this country" comment. Go to any Black Republican organization meeting and you will not see this. Black conservatives may meet as a group but they will be discussing issues just like any other political organization, without injecting race into every position or situation.
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