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To: Gondring
Is this a spoof or just more token gestures? ;-)

Maybe the knee jerk Bush critics might actually find out some facts at least ONE time? Just ONE time instead of the usual mindless knee jerk rants?

11 posted on 10/22/2005 9:33:59 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!.......Water Buckets UP!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well said! I know that a lot of Freepers are worried, or maybe a bit annoyed with the Pres. about this. But mostly they support him otherwise; and are willing to at least listen to what he says/check the facts about what's been done, and hold their fire! But there are the one bunch of them that will not listen, or read what is done already by the Pres. and Congress, and will fill up these threads with ugly insults and ridicule!

From what I've read, there have been attempts made by Pres., Congress, and by state authorities to control the borders. Maybe they could do more, I guess. But to say that nothing is done, they don't care(and some don't!), he wants open borders/overall, etc.. is nonsense, and not true!


14 posted on 10/22/2005 9:53:33 AM PDT by dsutah
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To: MNJohnnie

One aspect I'm not all that happy with is the catch and release policy. IF we are not doing it, I'd like to see caught illegals identified and recorded. There should also be some punishment provided if they are caught a second, third, fourth or whatever time they illegally enter the US.

Having the names of specific individuals to use in pressuring every government into helping restrict their citizens continued illegal behavior would help, and I would support making each home country financially responsible for our costs of capturing their citizens coming into America and our expense in returning them.


31 posted on 10/22/2005 11:02:00 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: MNJohnnie; dsutah; DumpsterDiver; HiJinx; janetgreen; Paladin2; jackbenimble; kitkat; ncgal; ...
Maybe the knee jerk Bush critics might actually find out some facts at least ONE time? Just ONE time instead of the usual mindless knee jerk rants?

...and perhaps you can learn what a winky smiley means, MNJohnnie!

But in any case, no knee-jerk here. This is, straightforward, more smoke-and-mirrors from an administration that is determined to kill any positive legacy it might have been building. A nod to silence critics is disingenuous.

Da Prez spake thus: If an employer has a job that no American is willing to take, we need to find a way to fill that demand by matching willing employers with willing workers from foreign countries on a temporary and legal basis.

This indicates quite clearly that President Bush has either no understanding or no respoect for the market that has made our country great. I would like him to name a few of these jobs that Americans wouldn't do.

If nobody can be found at a given wage, that doesn't mean workers couldn't be found at a higher wage. The market would demand a raise in wages, which would translate to a raise in wages to other careers, too. Of course prices would increase with the wages, but flooding the market with external labor is not the necessity he claims.

He's practicing a stealth version of Central Planning, rather than allowing wages to adjust to the American market. (In sectors competing internationally, then perhaps Americans will have to compete with international wages.)

If he were serious about things, a fence and stronger enforcement would be the proposal... Catch-and-release (or catch-and-remove, or catch-and-return, whatever smoke you wish to blow) is for fish... How about an ounce of prevention?

50 posted on 10/22/2005 1:39:24 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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