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Scholars Are Puzzled at Miers' Equal Protection Response
LA Times ^

Posted on 10/21/2005 11:44:20 PM PDT by indianrightwinger

Scholars Are Puzzled at Miers' Equal Protection Response By David G. Savage, Times Staff Writer

WASHINGTON -- When asked to describe the constitutional issues she had worked on during her legal career, Supreme Court nominee Harriet E. Miers had relatively little to say on the questionnaire she sent to the Senate this week.

And what she did say left some constitutional experts shaking their heads.

At one point, Miers described her service on the Dallas City Council in 1989. When the city was sued for violating the Voting Rights Act, she said, the council "had to be sure to comply with the proportional representation requirement of the Equal Protection clause."

But the Supreme Court repeatedly has said that the Constitution's guarantee of the "equal protection of the laws" does not mean that city councils or state legislatures must have enough minority members to match the proportion of blacks, Hispanics and Asians in the voting population.

"That's a terrible answer. There is no proportional representation requirement under the Equal Protection clause," said Burt Neuborne, a New York University law professor and expert on voting rights. "If a first-year law student wrote that and submitted it in class, I would send it back and say it was unacceptable."

Stanford law professor Pamela Karlan, also an expert on voting rights, said she was surprised the White House did not check Miers' questionnaire before sending it to the Senate.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; bush; miers; nomination; quotas; scotus; tailspin
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1 posted on 10/21/2005 11:44:20 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

All this blah blah blah when they could just go back to Harriet and ask her "what do you mean?" (congressman billybob, among others, knows some plausible possibilities.)

Miers is going to drive her detractors nuts with hysteria at this rate, and they are going to discredit themselves.


2 posted on 10/21/2005 11:46:57 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: indianrightwinger
In Miers' defense I've read the majority decision in Davis v. Bandemer three times and I'm not sure what it really says... but then nobody is talking about putting me on the supreme court.
Held: The judgment is reversed. JUSTICE WHITE delivered the opinion of the Court with respect to Part II, concluding that political gerrymandering, such as occurred in this case, is properly justiciable under the Equal Protection Clause. Here, none of the identifying characteristics of a nonjusticiable political question are present. Disposition of the case does not involve this Court in a matter more properly decided by a coequal branch of the Government. There is no risk of foreign or domestic disturbance. Nor is this Court persuaded that there are no judicially discernible and manageable standards by which political gerrymandering cases are to be decided. The mere fact that there is no likely arithmetic presumption, such as the "one person, one vote" rule, in the present context does not compel a conclusion that the claims presented here are nonjusticiable. The claim is whether each political group in the State should have the same chance to elect representatives of its choice as any other political group, and this Court declines to hold that such claim is never justiciable. That the claim is submitted by a political group, rather than a racial group, does not distinguish it in terms of justiciability.
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/politicalscience/gillman/davisvbandemer.html
3 posted on 10/21/2005 11:54:58 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Ping!


4 posted on 10/21/2005 11:56:25 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: indianrightwinger
"JUSTICE WHITE delivered the opinion of the Court with respect to Part II, concluding that political gerrymandering, such as occurred in this case, is properly justiciable under the Equal Protection Clause."

That's what she said.

5 posted on 10/21/2005 11:58:07 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: The Red Zone

Miers is going to drive her supporters nuts when she withdraws before the hearings.


6 posted on 10/22/2005 12:01:20 AM PDT by John Robertson ( Safe Travel)
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To: indianrightwinger

So either she screwed up, or now we know that she believes that the Equal Protection Clause mandates affirmative action. Gee, either way, how reassuring.


7 posted on 10/22/2005 12:03:18 AM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: ellery

Exactly, and the reason I am still up late pondering.


8 posted on 10/22/2005 12:04:21 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

:) Me too. What's confusing me is that her supporters here on this thread consider it a defense of her that she believes in Constitutionally protected affirmative action. Since when is that a good thing around these parts?


9 posted on 10/22/2005 12:06:33 AM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: indianrightwinger

Scholars spend about half of their time being puzzled, the other half being confused. But that's a lot better than intellectuals, who spend half of their time being wrong and the other half being stuck up.


10 posted on 10/22/2005 12:10:10 AM PDT by KarinG1
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To: ellery

The difference may be that there are both republicans and conservatives on this forum. Remember, they are different. :-)

Oh well, now I started a flame!


11 posted on 10/22/2005 12:10:49 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

Harriet E. Miers' mediocrity make you think her boss is mediocre too. Since he has valued her advice for years and has nominated her to the Supreme Court.


(Voted for GW twice and would do it again)


12 posted on 10/22/2005 12:10:53 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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She has no idea what she said or what she was supposed to say.


13 posted on 10/22/2005 12:14:03 AM PDT by phelanw
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To: dennisw

No ill feeling against Bush in this whole Miers' episode. Only wish that he will pull the plug. Andy Card is the root of this debacle.

Yes, I would vote for Bush again. This time, with the prayer that he will really nominate someone in the mold of Scalia/Thomas.


14 posted on 10/22/2005 12:14:33 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: The Red Zone
Miers is going to drive her detractors nuts with hysteria at this rate, and they are going to discredit themselves.

LOL! It's impossible for them to "discredit themselves" when they are perfectly write. At best, Miers supporters can spin so hard that they come up with some ridiculous roundabout way of making it sound like she knows what she's talking about.. It doesn't discredit her detractors, since they're right on the law; if anything, supporters discredit themselves in their transparent effort to put lipstick on a bad situation.

15 posted on 10/22/2005 12:15:09 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: The Red Zone
Make that perfectly right.. *sigh* :)
16 posted on 10/22/2005 12:15:43 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv

Yes they are perfectly "write." They write vitriol at a fever pitch. That's all that can be said about them.


17 posted on 10/22/2005 12:17:16 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: The Red Zone

uh huh I've got your vitriol write here, buddy! :p


18 posted on 10/22/2005 12:23:09 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: indianrightwinger
And what she did say left some constitutional experts shaking their heads.

*SIGH!* But if they only "knew her heart," like President Bush!

[/sarcasm]

19 posted on 10/22/2005 12:33:09 AM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: indianrightwinger

Hee!


20 posted on 10/22/2005 12:34:27 AM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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