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Perhaps fearful of public reaction in America, where support for the war is falling, US officials suppressed details of the Sept 20 attack, which bore a striking resemblance to the murder of four other contractors in Fallujah last year.
1 posted on 10/21/2005 7:01:22 PM PDT by 1066AD
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Flamethrowers. We need flamethrowers. Lots and lots of them.

L

2 posted on 10/21/2005 7:03:32 PM PDT by Lurker (Torch every single dead terrorists corpse, wrap it in bacon and bury it face down;feet towards Mecca)
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Disappointing to see the Telegraph turning into the Guardian.


3 posted on 10/21/2005 7:03:58 PM PDT by JimRic54
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See:

The Anbar Campaign - A Flash Presentation

http://billroggio.com/archives/2005/10/the_anbar_campa_4.php


5 posted on 10/21/2005 7:04:32 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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Telegraph? How about a ~reputable~ source?


6 posted on 10/21/2005 7:04:53 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 900 knives and counting!)
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Is this something that actually just happened, or is it a retelling of the last time contractors were murdered and their bodies desecrated?

If it's something new, we do the eqiuvalent of "nuking the planet from orbit... It's the only way to be sure."

Seriously, if this is something new, we need to get the friendlies out of the city, surrounding it and giving them 24 houre. Then raize it to the ground, killing everyone left there.

Mark


7 posted on 10/21/2005 7:05:36 PM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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The MSM keeps highlighting bad news for America in Iraq. They have a template and they will ignore or supress anything that doesn't fit their picture of Iraq-as-Vietnam and America as the helpless and losing giant.

("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")

9 posted on 10/21/2005 7:06:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Barefoot children, yelping in delight, piled straw on to the screaming man's body to stoke the flames.

They are lost as human beings, and must be treated as young predators that must be eliminated.

Mark

10 posted on 10/21/2005 7:07:04 PM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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We don't have the stomach for the brutality it will take to cow the Sunnis. Besides even if we had the stomach for it the Demoncrats would have our guys in jail. I think the Dems are hoping to have a string of berka stores for their newly converted and circumsized wives and daughters. We will have to get super serious soon with bigger weaponry or just die house to house.


11 posted on 10/21/2005 7:07:44 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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I'm confused - isn't this the story from March 2004?


17 posted on 10/21/2005 7:12:23 PM PDT by wigswest
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...they doused the other with petrol and set him alight. Barefoot children, yelping in delight, piled straw on to the screaming man's body to stoke the flames.

Gee. I wonder who observed and reported on this. Does The Telegraph too have terrorists on its payroll, Ba'athist dogs like the AP's Bilal Hussein?

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

19 posted on 10/21/2005 7:13:09 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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only the iraqi forces can win this phase of the war, we cannot do it for them - we can help, but there is a limit. our forces already won the phase of the war they were designed to conduct.


20 posted on 10/21/2005 7:13:10 PM PDT by oceanview
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Okay, fine.

Let's pull all our troops out of Iraq, and nuke the entire country into oblivion.

It's quite obvious from the article that Iraqis are incapable of higher thought, and therefore, we cannot ever hope to ever gain any type of control over the situation.

You're right, British Newspaper. How could we have ever been so stupid? Thanks for showing me the light, the fact that the Iraqis are barbarians.

Where can I subscribe for your enlightening newspaper?
25 posted on 10/21/2005 7:16:21 PM PDT by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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"Nobody was hurt but the mutual distrust between the Americans and the local community deepened just a little bit more."

OK.
I'm sick of hearing this stuff (descriptive wording omitted)
"Distrust" and "hurt" do not equate to "out of power" or "executed".
Let's see one reporter, who has been in or around actual combat - with weapon in hand and on orders - report the same situation!

War sucks,
there are people out there who support you...
and those who don't.
there are feel good stories,
and the others.

Bottom line is that the 'sunni triangle' won't be the same tomorrow as two years ago,
won't be the same tomorrow as today.
Iraq WILL be a changed state when we leave - almost certainly for the better.

The other bottom line is that the MSM and large parts of the settled world will be saddened by that fact.

Xin Loi.

28 posted on 10/21/2005 7:18:26 PM PDT by norton (This is not about the DIA or the CIA. This is about CYA...)
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Wait, wait:

when I google "Duluiya" or "sunni triangle" and "contractors", all I come across in News is this story...

If this story is true why haven't others picked it up yet?

Something isn't right about this....


29 posted on 10/21/2005 7:19:13 PM PDT by wigswest
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guys -

the telegraph is the ONLY source I've found that's carrying this story-

doesn't that seem strange?


33 posted on 10/21/2005 7:21:52 PM PDT by wigswest
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This incident is not a measure of who is winning the Sunni Triangle.

The measure is in the voter turnout in the Sunni Triangle. The Iraqui people deplore this incident as much as anyone.

The Islamofascists are on a campaign to dehumanize us in Iraq. We need to fight back by humanizing ourselves.

The liberal media goes along with the dehumanizing of Westerners in Iraq. Otherwise they would be showing photos of dead and captured terrorists as well.


36 posted on 10/21/2005 7:22:42 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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Now that we know where the b****ds are, go in shooting. Spare no one.


41 posted on 10/21/2005 7:26:25 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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BWAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA....Ok now that I got that out of the way...


"...forced them to kneel on the street.

Killing one of the men with a rifle round fired into the back of his head, they doused the other with petrol and set him alight."
First of all, where is the "outrage" and the calls for an investigation for torture and abuse. Not to mention the multiple Geneva violations involved here. Seems to me something about muslims upset right now at how FOUL it is to ummmm burn bodies?

"As the lorries desperately tried to reverse out, dozens of Sunni Arab insurgents wielding rocket launchers and automatic rifles emerged from their homes."

I guess that about does it for the "innocent civilians" claims eh?

"The gunmen were almost certainly emboldened by the fact that the American soldiers escorting the convoy would not have been able to respond quickly enough."

Time to come out of the houses with rocket launchers and for kids to pile on straw but no time for the military to respond? *cough cough* bulls#@t *cough cough*

"The jubilant crowd dragged their corpses through the street, chanting anti-US slogans."

Some more "innocent civilians".

"An investigation has been launched into why the contractors were not better protected."

Oh, theeeerrrrres the investigation. FFS!

"Perhaps fearful of public reaction in America, where support for the war is falling......"

oh PULEEAAASE! The claims of falling support have been made for so long if they were true there would be no support at all today. This is jibberish. Oh and this stuff doesn't make Americans LACK support, it PISSES US OFF!garnering MORE.

"......US officials suppressed details of the Sept 20 attack, which bore a striking resemblance to the murder of four other contractors in Fallujah last year."

This is a pretty BOLD, not to mention unsubstantiated claim, funny how no officials are named. Fallujah tried to emulate Somalia too and they found out we didn't run away like CLINTOON did. I suppose if they seek to emulate fallujah, the more power to em. They will get the same result.

"growing difficulties" .... "Pinned down" ....."American soldiers are unable".....

Nah, no negative bias there at All! LMAO.

"urban strongholds"

Ummmmm, Geneva.....? Jeez.

"But hopes for progress are growing more remote."

ONLY in the eyes of people that wish the USA and the Iraqi majority to fail.

"Even routine patrols are fraught with danger."

In a W A R, wouldn't that be a bit of common sense?


"But, as is so often the case, the attacker had vanished down one of Dour's maze-like alleys."

Heck of an assumption there. Being that they come out of their houses with rocket launchers, it seems a a safer assumption would be that he simply went inside his house. ;)

"Nobody was hurt but the mutual distrust between the Americans and the local community deepened just a little bit more."

Now this REALLY doesn't make any sense.
Soldiers are there to FIGHT the ones these folks are afraid of. This causes them to distrust US??? That is about as Silly as it gets!


49 posted on 10/21/2005 7:34:42 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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Duluiya, located in the notorious Sunni triangle, is much smaller than Fallujah but no less violent, even if events here rarely make the news.

I know there is a very rationale reason we haven't leveled these hellholes. I'm just curious what it is.

53 posted on 10/21/2005 7:38:34 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Re the reporter, Adrian Blomfield, from http://yglesias.typepad.com/matthew/2004/10/diary.html


See also this sobering account by Daily Telegraph reporter Adrian Blomfield published in The Spectator (UK) -

"Why I turned against the war"

"Adrian Blomfield went to Baghdad as a strong believer in regime change. Now he thinks that Bush has messed up in Iraq — and should be booted out of the White House."

http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php?id=5168&issue=2004-10-30


64 posted on 10/21/2005 7:50:02 PM PDT by wigswest
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