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Doesn't Look Good - Harriet Miers will not join the Supreme Court.
American Spectator ^ | John Tabin

Posted on 10/21/2005 10:13:21 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: mikeus_maximus
Perhaps you know her personally. But I dearly wish I had something she had written or said publicly at other times to allow me to be as sure.

I go to the same church group, and when she was nominated I phoned my buddy to see if any of his friends know her. It seems his father has known her since she was on the city council. His father said, "Even back then she constantly stated, 'We need to see what the city charter has to say,' and 'Our courts are out of control, and have gone too far. We need to get back to what the Founders had to say."

In our churches the members are taught to read their Bibles literally unless the plain meaning of the text clearly indicates that was not the author's intention. In other words, we read our Bibles like an originalist. Miers best friend, Nathan Hecht, has stated she reads her Bible that way, and has that view.
61 posted on 10/21/2005 11:12:11 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Soul Seeker

Very well put, IMO. Thanks for posting.


62 posted on 10/21/2005 11:12:36 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Is it foolish, even now, after being insulted by this W.H. that I don't think he'd be vindictive and nominate Gonzales to spite us? I don't know. I do think it raises an interesting question of the character of the man some supporters of this nomination perceive, if they believe he'd be so childish.

It doesn't mean he wouldn't nominate Gonzales, just that I do not believe he'd do so in retaliation.

However, I have the strong feeling Gonzales has the sense to calmly decline recognizing the base isn't inclined to him and loyalty to the President. It was his office, after all, that joined Cheney in objection to Meirs.


63 posted on 10/21/2005 11:15:24 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: sinkspur
Get ready for Alberto Gonzales.

He's gotta wait his turn.
Dubya has someone else in mind for "Plan B".
Bush invites Bono to lunch at White House

64 posted on 10/21/2005 11:18:23 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: EagleUSA
Okay, could it be that Miers is to go to the committee and say "I'm pro-life and I think Roe should be overturned." Surely the dems are not a one issue party and vote against her(sarcasm off)

THEN, we get to see the dems go crazy(ier)and find out who the real conservatives are.

If she wins, great. If not, we will see how the vote will tally.
65 posted on 10/21/2005 11:18:43 AM PDT by SouthWall (Come to America to be American, speak American, work American, play American.)
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To: flashbunny
He said if he was GWB, he's nominate Gonzales just to spite conservatives who didn't like miers.

Shows you the kind of person you're dealing with, eh?

That is a bold-faced lie. And you know it.

You know, bunny, you've shown yourself, over the past three weeks, to be a primary instigator of the divide that has taken place on this forum. You ping your little lists of sycophants, then twitter behind the backs of other posters without pinging them so they can defend themselves.

You are an exemplar of every negative stereotype of the conservative movement.

You are determined to win at all costs, and you will step on and step over everybody you think stands in your way. You'll even lie if you think it helps your "cause."

I'm out for the rest of the day, but I'm sure that won't stop you from making stuff up behind my back and not giving me a chance to dispute your fantasies.

66 posted on 10/21/2005 11:21:41 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: sinkspur
Get ready for Alberto Gonzales.

Get ready for the Constituion Party to rip the conservative piece of the GOP off then.

67 posted on 10/21/2005 11:21:52 AM PDT by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- Truth, Justice and the American Way)
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To: sinkspur

Oh gawd no!!!

We will just see a repeat of it - Cronyism, not conservative enough, lots and lots and lots of questions about inner White House documents.

If they do Gonzalez, it will be proof they learned NOTHING from the Miers mistake.

Here is what Bush MUST do:
Nominate a PROVEN Conservative -
Luttig, Edith Jones, Janice Rogers Brown.

Now, dont give me any grief about how they are not confirmable ... that's NOT the point. If BUSH WANTS CONSERVATIVES BACK IN HIS CORNER, HE HAS TO NOMINATE A CONSERVATIVE. A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE.

No wishy-washy moderate Judge like that 9th circuit hispanic judge. A real conservative.

The Dems will have their fight, we will have ours.
But Bush will be back in the saddle, with an army by his side.
That's his only chance.


68 posted on 10/21/2005 11:31:58 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: SouthWall

THEN, we get to see the dems go crazy(ier)and find out who the real conservatives are.
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What makes me sick about this whole political mess, is that you would think that abortion is the only issue facing this country, and all that is important.

It really stinks. The concerns should be about whether she will FOLLOW THE LAW, SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION AND NOT LEGISLATE FROM THE BENCH. What they should be doing is figuring out how to overturn the liberal-activist decision that DELIBERATELY BROKE the fifth amendment -- the sole discussion should be about the Constitution and protecting every aspect of it, not just abortion.


69 posted on 10/21/2005 11:40:17 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: WOSG

IMO, if Meirs is defeated either from withdrawal (which I see unlikely) or Senate voting down (possible though I'm not yet convinced they will do so), Williams is the likely replacement if he chooses a woman. Lindsey has already put her name out there as a possibility. She's conservative and comes from his home state. Though she isn't the star or a "Brown", most would consider her acceptable.

McConnell, Garza or Alito if a man. This is under assumption he picks a more known quantity. I wouldn't suggest it out of realm he would choose a quieter nominee, less Rah Rah from base but accepetable as Williams would be acceptable. I doubt Luttig, I have the sense he's not a favorite of the President's for whatever reasoning. He is from Warner's state, so it's a possibility if to pressure Warner's support even in event of a filibuster.

Though, take this for what it is worth. I didn't predict Meirs so conventional wisdom is out.

Agreed with a stronger nominee the past three weeks would be put aside in unity around a candidate that is supported by the base.


70 posted on 10/21/2005 11:51:40 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: quidnunc
If I were Bush, here's what I would consider doing: I would not nominate anyone until late next summer just before the Congressional election campaign started. Then, I would nominate Gonzalez and watch them sweat.

What kind of drugs are you using to come up with this weird scenerio? Bush would look like incompetent fool and his approval ratings would drop below 30% if he did that.

71 posted on 10/21/2005 11:57:21 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: flashbunny
It seems that Bush is so busy staunching the flood of illegals coming into the country that he has not had time to consider the floundering of his Scotus choice.

Rumor has it that any day now Bush will hustle AF1 down to the Southwest for a visual inspection of the border. Any day now. Soon. Perhaps. Maybe?

72 posted on 10/21/2005 12:00:23 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: sinkspur
I'm out for the rest of the day, but I'm sure that won't stop you from making stuff up behind my back and not giving me a chance to dispute your fantasies.

I'll cover your back (and YOUR fantasies), my dear sinky.

Love,

Your pal,

alcuin.*

*Esq.**

**(Honourary)

Oh, the farmer and the cowboy should be friends . . .

73 posted on 10/21/2005 12:03:34 PM PDT by alcuin (Something there is that doesn't love a bad nomination.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Now is the chance for Bush to nominate a true conservative who believes in Constitutional rule of law and has shown a solid career of fighting socialism.

Let the nominee be: pro life; against affirmative action; in favor of revising immigration laws designed to limit and keep out foreigners; pro business; against Bush's New World Order; for school vouchers; of strong religious faith; an advocate of traditional American values; opposed to the welfare state; states rights; dedicated to overturn Roe; minimum taxes; and of original intent; and be in favor of means-testing all proposed legislation against the Constitution.

And then let the Dems bring it on.
74 posted on 10/21/2005 12:04:39 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Now is the chance for Bush to nominate a true conservative who believes in Constitutional rule of law and has shown a solid career of fighting socialism.

Let the nominee be: pro life; against affirmative action; in favor of revising immigration laws designed to limit and keep out foreigners; pro business; against Bush's New World Order; for school vouchers; of strong religious faith; an advocate of traditional American values; opposed to the welfare state; states rights; dedicated to overturn Roe; minimum taxes; and of original intent; and be in favor of means-testing all proposed legislation against the Constitution.

And then let the Dems bring it on.


75 posted on 10/21/2005 12:05:22 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Now is the chance for Bush to nominate a true conservative who believes in Constitutional rule of law and has shown a solid career of fighting socialism.

Let the nominee be: pro life; against affirmative action; in favor of revising immigration laws designed to limit and keep out foreigners; pro business; against Bush's New World Order; for school vouchers; of strong religious faith; an advocate of traditional American values; opposed to the welfare state; states rights; dedicated to overturn Roe; minimum taxes; and of original intent; and be in favor of means-testing all proposed legislation against the Constitution.

And then let the Dems bring it on.


76 posted on 10/21/2005 12:05:57 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Now is the chance for Bush to nominate a true conservative who believes in Constitutional rule of law and has shown a solid career of fighting socialism.

Let the nominee be: pro life; against affirmative action; in favor of revising immigration laws designed to limit and keep out foreigners; pro business; against Bush's New World Order; for school vouchers; of strong religious faith; an advocate of traditional American values; opposed to the welfare state; states rights; dedicated to overturn Roe; minimum taxes; and of original intent; and be in favor of means-testing all proposed legislation against the Constitution.

And then let the Dems bring it on.


77 posted on 10/21/2005 12:06:17 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Now is the chance for Bush to nominate a true conservative who believes in Constitutional rule of law and has shown a solid career of fighting socialism.

Let the nominee be: pro life; against affirmative action; in favor of revising immigration laws designed to limit and keep out foreigners; pro business; against Bush's New World Order; for school vouchers; of strong religious faith; an advocate of traditional American values; opposed to the welfare state; states rights; dedicated to overturn Roe; minimum taxes; and of original intent; and be in favor of means-testing all proposed legislation against the Constitution.

And then let the Dems bring it on.


78 posted on 10/21/2005 12:06:40 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: sinkspur

79 posted on 10/21/2005 12:08:05 PM PDT by flashbunny (What is more important: Loyalty to principles, or loyalty to personalities?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Assuming the Miers nomination fails, I wonder if Bush could focus on pi$$ing of the liberals this time?


80 posted on 10/21/2005 12:11:56 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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