Posted on 10/21/2005 9:44:44 AM PDT by blogblogginaway
The media version of the CIA leak case is that the White House illegally revealed a CIA employees identity because her husband, Joseph Wilson, was an administration critic.
But former prosecutor Joseph E. diGenova says the real story is that the CIA launched a covert operation against the President when it sent Wilson on the mission to Africa to investigate the Iraq-uranium link. DiGenova, a former Independent Counsel who prosecuted several high-profile cases and has extensive experience on Capitol Hill, including as counsel to several Senate committees, is optimistic that Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald will figure it all out.
DiGenova tells this columnist, It seems to me somewhat strange, in terms of CIA tradecraft, that if you were really attempting to protect the identity of a covert officer, why would you send her husband overseas on a mission, without a confidentiality agreement, and then allow him when he came back to the United States to write an op-ed piece in the New York Times about it.
That mission, he explained, leads naturally to the questions: Who is this guy? And how did he get this assignment? Thats not the way you protect the identity of a covert officer, he said. If it is, then [CIA director] Porter Goss is doing the right thing in cleaning house at the agency.
If the CIA is the real villain in the case, then almost everything we have been told about the scandal by the media is wrong. Whats more, it means that the CIA, perhaps the most powerful intelligence agency in the U.S. Government, was deliberately trying to undermine the Bush Administrations Iraq War policy. The liberals who are anxious for indictments of Bush Administration officials in this case should start paying attention to this aspect of the scandal. They may be opposed to the Iraq War, but since when is the CIA allowed to run covert operations against an elected president of the U.S.?
DiGenova first made his astounding comments about the Wilson affair being a covert operation against the President on the Imus in the Morning Show, carried nationally on radio and MSNBC-TV. I wondered whether these serious charges would be refuted or probed by the media. Imus, a shock jock who has spent several days grieving and joking about the death of his cat, didnt grasp their significance. But the mainstream press didnt seem interested, either.
DiGenova told me he believes there has been a war between the White House and the CIA over intelligence and that the agency, in the Wilson affair, was using the sort of tactics it uses in covert actions overseas. One has to consider the implications of this statement. It means that the CIA was using Wilson for the purpose of undermining the Bush Administrations Iraq policy.
If this is the case, then one has to conclude that the CIAs covert operation against the President was successful to a point. It generated an investigation of the White House after officials began trying to set the record straight to the press about the Wilson mission. At this point, its still not clear what if anything Fitzgerald has on these officials. If theyre indicted for making inconsistent statements about their discussions with one another or the press, that would seem to be a pathetically weak case. And it would not get to the heart of the issuethe CIAs war against Bush.
One of those apparently threatened with indictment, as Times reporter Judith Millers account of her grand jury testimony revealed, is an agency critic named Lewis Libby, chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. Miller said that Libby was frustrated and angry about selective leaking by the CIA and other agencies to distance themselves from what he recalled as their unequivocal prewar intelligence assessments. Miller said Libby believed the selective leaks from the CIA were an attempt to shift blame to the White House and were part of a perverted war over the war in Iraq.
Wilson was clearly part of that war. He came back from Niger in Africa and wrote the New York Times column insisting there was no Iraqi deal to purchase uranium for a nuclear weapons program. In fact, however, Wlson had misrepresented his own findings, and the Senate Intelligence Committee found there was additional evidence of Iraqi attempts to buy uranium.
DiGenova raises serious questions about the CIA role not only in the Wilson mission but in the referral to the Justice Department that culminated in the appointment of a special prosecutor. At this point in the media feeding frenzy over the story, the issue of how the investigation started has almost been completely lost. The answer is that it came from the CIA. Acting independently and with great secrecy, the CIA contacted the Justice Department with concern about articles in the press that included the disclosure of the identity of an employee operating under cover. The CIA informed the Justice Department that the disclosure was a possible violation of criminal law. This started the chain of events that is the subject of speculative news articles almost every day.
The CIAs version of its contacts with the Justice Department was contained in a 4-paragraph letter to Rep. John Conyers, ranking Democratic Member of the House Judiciary Committee. Conyers and other liberal Democrats had been clamoring for the probe.
DiGenova doubts that the CIA had a case to begin with. He says he would like to see what sworn information was provided to the Justice Department about the status of Wilsons CIA wife, Valerie Plame, and what active measures the CIA was taking to protect her identity. The implication is that her status was not classified or protected and that the agency simply used the stories about her identity to create the scandal that seems to occupy so much attention these days.
But if the purpose was not only to undermine the Iraq War policy but to stop the administration from reforming the agency, it hasnt completely worked. Indeed, the Washington Post ran a long story by Dafna Linzer on October 19 about the turmoil in the agency as personnel either quit or are forced out by CIA Director Goss. Like so many stories about the CIA leak case, this story reflected the views of CIA bureaucrats who despise what Goss is doing and resist supervision or reform of their operations.
Members of the press do not want to be seen as too close to the Bush Administration, but acting as scribblers for the CIA bureaucracy, which failed America on 9/11, is perfectly acceptable.
DiGenovas comments might be dismissed as just the view of an administration defender. But his comments reflect the facts about the case that emerged when the Senate Intelligence Committee conducted an independent investigation. Wilson, who became an adviser to the Kerry for President campaign, had claimed his CIA wife had no role in recommending him for the trip, but the committee determined that was not true. Why would Wilson misrepresent the truth about her if the purpose were not to conceal the curious nature of the CIA role and its hidden agenda in his controversial mission? And who in the CIA besides his wife was behind it?
In this regard, Millers account of her testimony to the grand jury disclosed that Fitzgerald had asked whether Libby had complained about nepotism behind the Wilson trip, a reference to the role played by Plame. This is the line of inquiry that could lead, if Fitzgerald pursues it, to unraveling the CIA covert operation behind the Wilson affair. There may be rogue elements at the agency who are conducting their own foreign policy, in contravention of the official foreign policy of the U.S. Government elected by the American people. Like it or not, Bush is the President and he is supposed to run the CIA, not the other way around.
Fitzgerald has the opportunity to break this case wide open. Or else he can take the politically correct approach, which is popular with the press, and go after administration officials.
One irony of the case is that Miller is under strong attack by the left as an administration lackey when she didnt even write an article at the time noting Libbys criticisms of the CIA and the Wilson trip. Did her other sources, perhaps in the CIA, persuade her to drop the story? We may never know because she claims that she got Fitzgerald to agree not to question her about them. But what she did eventually report, after spending 85 days in jail, amounts to an exoneration of the Bush Administration. Libby, Karl Rove and others obviously believed they could not take on the CIA directly but had to get their story out indirectly through the press. They got burned by Miller and other journalists.
Gosss CIA house-cleaning, of course, has come too late to save the administration from being victimized in the Wilson/Plame affair. Some officials could get indicted because of faulty or inconsistent memories. It is also obvious that liberal journalists are so excited over possible indictments of Bush officials that they are willing to overlook the agencys manipulation of public policy and the press. But if the CIA has been out-of-control, subverting the democratic process and undermining the president, the American people have a right to know. If Fitzgerald doesnt blow the whistle on this, the Congress should hold public hearings and do so.
I wonder...
It could be possible.
The CIA missed every large historical mess/situation in the last 20 years. If we're paying them to play spook while they miss the stuff that matters, we're fools. What about the Bay of Pigs, 9/11, breakup of the USSR - the Cole, Muslim militants and their reach - I'm sure the list is as long as the disasters. It's time for them to get off the stage. Let the military run intelligence. People with some ethics beyond their big fat egos... If the only thing they're good at is dirty tricks against Republicans, then they're a waste of taxpayer money.
Jacqueline, (his second wife), was a French diplomat and may have provided the connections for Wilson to see the forged documents that were supplied by the French through the Italians. In other words it is possible that Wilson knew that the docs were forged because he was privy to the information that French wanted to discredit the British info on Saddam shopping for yellowcake and that Wilson's objective was the same. The French just happen to manage the yellowcake production in Niger.
IOW, he didn't lie...he saw them. It has been reported that she was a "cultural counselor" for the French Embassy, which some say is code for she was doing undercover work.
And Fedora has contributed this:
French intelligence soon began a campaign to discredit the US case for war against Iraq. In 1999, French intelligence had begun investigating the security of uranium supplies in Niger, where uranium production was controlled by a consortium led by the French mining company COGEMA, a division of the French state-owned nuclear energy firm AREVA. At that time, Italian businessman Rocco Martino provided French intelligence with genuine documents revealing that Iraq was planning to expand trade with Niger. French intelligence took an interest in the documents and asked Martino to provide more information. In 2000 he used a contact in the Nigerian embassy in Rome to provide French intelligence with documents purporting that Iraq had purchased uranium from Niger. These documents were later exposed as forgeries;
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Since it is now also known that French intelligence was trying to push Martinos forgeries on US and British intelligence, as simultaneously the Democratic National Committee was planning to discredit President Bushs Iraq policy by accusing his administration of manufacturing evidence against Husseins regime, heightened suspicion is cast on Wilsons use of the Niger investigation to discredit the Bush administrations case for war.
He was discussed a bit with an article on a thread a couple of years back.... he seemed quite innocuous, just her college sweetheart and their marriage didn't last very long, from what I recall. He seemed quite distant from all CIA and intel matters, unless he was putting out some "cover story"....it sounded like their relationship began to drift apart when she went into the CIA because he was much more of a "Joe regular" guy who didn't want to be around intel or government at all. That's how the article described him, anyway.
READ...
Set up? Anatomy of the contrived Wilson "scandal"
It is not just a CIA deal, but a media deal. Walter Pincus and David Corn have either been unknowing or knowing (probably) participants in this whole deal.
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It was the Nigerian Embassy in Rome.
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Also, it's rarely pointed out that the CIA, including Valerie Plame's vaunted WMD unit, has totally botched virtually every significant development in WMD proliferation for decades. India and Pakistan going nuke, the whole Khan network including Libya and Iran and North Korea, everything about North Korea's nuke progress in the '90s, Iraq being within a year or less of having nukes at the time of the 1991 Gulf War, etc. etc. etc.
The CIA has been a total botch on WMD issues, so there was a lot more reason to be suspicious of than complacent about their pre-2003 assessments of Iraq. This is an important point that is almost never noticed. Every previous major WMD development for decades has been UNDER-estimated, not over-estimated, by our fabled CIA.
Well, 9/11 was the anti-terrorism crowd's Pearl Harbor. And to a certain extent, the CIA's Pearl Harbor. It should be obvious to all that ineptitude on such a scale can't be tolerated in the post-9/11 World. Now, there is a small group of former terrorism and CIA people who go around stirring it up against the Bush Administration. Far be it from me to name names, but you can pick your favorite. It's just possible that some of them are trying to save their reputations and their self-respect by putting all the blame on the Bush Administration.
YUP, mega-kudos to Wolfstar who did a better summary of this whole affair way back in Oct. 2003 than ANY msm dipstick has done before or since. Every MSM reporter should be required to read all the freeper threads on Wilson and pals before they dare to write one more story on this sordid affair. I sure do hope Fitzgerald has fully pursued avenues outside of the WH and not just followed the Joe Wilson talking points.
We're still missing the forger for Rathergate. Is forgery in or something?
There's an old movie with Vincent Price. He becomes a monk to get into an archives to alter a record. He has access to the original ink and parchment, changes the pages in the original archive and returns to America with his duplicate. His messup was that the person he was promoting as this "owner" of Arizona has a hidden past.
Who the hell is forging stuff to bring down the Whitehouse??
What has frustrated me since the beginning was that there wasn't any 'investigation' into whether there was a crime. The first question that should have been investigated was not who outed her, but was she actually outed. John Smith calls in a secret 'report' that x killed y. Well, before the prosecutor calls a bunch of 'witnesses' and x before the grand jury it is necessary and should be obvious, that he find out if y is still alive!
bttt
Looks like there's lots more house cleaning for Goss to do. There must be a huge nest of commies and the hate America crowd in the CIA. I want their heads on a platter.
The Butler Report affirmed what the British government had said about the Niger uranium story back in 2003, and specifically endorsed what Bush said as well.
By extension, we conclude also that the statement in President Bushs State of the Union Address of 28 January 2003 that The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa was well-founded.
From the Senate Committee:
The U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence reported July 7, 2004 that the CIA had received reports from a foreign government (not named, but probably Britain) that Iraq had actually concluded a deal with Niger to supply 500 tons a year of partially processed uranium ore, or "yellowcake." That is potentially enough to produce 50 nuclear warheads.
The Senate report said the CIA then asked a "former ambassador" to go to Niger and report. That is a reference to Joseph Wilson -- who later became a vocal critic of the President's 16 words. The Senate report said Wilson brought back denials of any Niger-Iraq uranium sale, and argued that such a sale wasn't likely to happen. But the Intelligence Committee report also reveals that Wilson brought back something else as well -- evidence that Iraq may well have wanted to buy uranium.
Wilson reported that he had met with Niger's former Prime Minister Ibrahim Mayaki, who said that in June 1999 he was asked to meet with a delegation from Iraq to discuss "expanding commercial relations" between the two countries.
Based on what Wilson told them, CIA analysts wrote an intelligence report saying former Prime Minister Mayki "interpreted 'expanding commercial relations' to mean that the (Iraqi) delegation wanted to discuss uranium yellowcake sales." In fact, the Intelligence Committee report said that "for most analysts" Wilson's trip to Niger "lent more credibility to the original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) reports on the uranium deal."
He (the intelligence officer) said he judged that the most important fact in the report was that the Nigerian officials admitted that the Iraqi delegation had traveled there in 1999, and that the Nigerian Prime Minister believed the Iraqis were interested in purchasing uranium, because this provided some confirmation of foreign government service reporting.
Both the US and British investigations make clear that some forged Italian documents, exposed as fakes soon after Bush spoke, were not the basis for the British intelligence Bush cited, or the CIA's conclusion that Iraq was trying to get uranium.
I think the title of this thread tells it all, I don't believe it is a question any longer. I just pray that Fitzgerald's interview with the Italian authorities in Rome was fruitful.
"It has been reported that she was a "cultural counselor" for the French Embassy, which some say is code for she was doing undercover work."
Well at the very least it is apparent that Mr Wilson is attracted to women with "interesting" careers. Anymore wives out there? I read where he indicated he had "too many wives to run for public office".
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