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Bush insists Miers will win over Senate critics
Houston Chronicle ^ | Oct. 20, 2005 | Patty Reinert

Posted on 10/21/2005 6:03:45 AM PDT by katieanna

WASHINGTON - President Bush insisted Thursday that Harriet Miers would win over any skeptics and be seated on the U.S. Supreme Court, even as the embattled nominee worked on a "do-over" questionnaire for irritated senators overseeing the confirmation process.

"Harriet will answer all the questions asked," Bush said during a Rose Garden news conference to showcase his visit with Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas. "Out of this will come a clear picture of a competent, strong, capable woman who shares the same judicial philosophy that I share."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; miers; miershearings; scotus
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I heard someone on television last night make a point that I had not considered nor heard discussed previously: how would Miers fare in the deliberative process with Scalia, Roberts, Stevens, et al. Good point. Something worth considering.
1 posted on 10/21/2005 6:03:45 AM PDT by katieanna
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To: katieanna
Most of the lawyers who graduate from law school at the top of their classes are just great at memorizing volumes of material.

This (not necessarily yours) uppity perspective toward mental ability is a waste. We'll just have to wait and see.

But for all those who want her to drop out, Charles Krautmammer has a pretty good solution for that in his latest article.

2 posted on 10/21/2005 6:08:13 AM PDT by beyond the sea (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: katieanna
who shares the same judicial philosophy that I share

They also share the same gift with words that he shares.

3 posted on 10/21/2005 6:12:12 AM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: beyond the sea

"This (not necessarily yours) uppity perspective toward mental ability is a waste."

I think the pundit on television was referring more to knowledge rather than mental ability. He based his comments on her inability to answer a question posed to her by a senator on the famous Griswold case. His point is that Roberts, Scalia, Stevens and other Justices could answer any question and then some asked about Griswold and any other widely known case. She just doesn't have the background they have.


4 posted on 10/21/2005 6:15:31 AM PDT by katieanna
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To: katieanna
WASHINGTON - President Bush insisted Thursday that Harriet Miers would win over any skeptics and be seated on the U.S. Supreme Court, even as the embattled nominee worked on a "do-over" questionnaire for irritated senators overseeing the confirmation process.

From the Texas Lottery days, Miers is a "fixer" like Clark Clifford was in DC. However, Clifford was a DC "insider" while Miers performed most of her fixer duties in Texas.

Both Bush and Miers are Washington "outsiders." I see in this that Bush is using Miers to irritate the Washington insiders deliberately. There has to be considerable undercurrent of friction between the two camps, and this is bringing it to the forefront. At the personal level, Bush is essentially saying Washington DC insiders can take a hike.

With this nomination, so early into his second term, perhaps Bush is declaring war on the Washington insiders, Democrat and Republican.

5 posted on 10/21/2005 6:15:45 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: katieanna
how would Miers fare in the deliberative process with Scalia, Roberts, Stevens, et al. Good point. Something worth considering.

It is a very good point. A justice is far more than just a conservative or a liberal vote. If they are good they are a persuasive voice that leads the court and influences other votes. Further, their voice and writing is part of the historical record and their opinions if they are well constructed and written will continue to influence the court for perhaps centuries past the end of their life term.

This one of the major reasons why many conservatives are so angry that many of our well-known brilliant conservative justices were bypassed in this selection. Ms. Miers may turn out to be a competent justice and a reliable vote but there is NOTHING in her record to suggest brilliance and the quality of her writing that we have seen so far has been fairly lame. It is a shame that we won't have the smartest person possible making the case for conservative, original intent jurisprudence.

6 posted on 10/21/2005 6:18:05 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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President Bush insisted Thursday that Harriet Miers would win over any skeptics and be seated on the U.S. Supreme Court...

IMHO, Bush has a better chance of winning the Texas Lottery than getting Miers confirmed.

7 posted on 10/21/2005 6:25:22 AM PDT by vox humana
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To: jackbenimble

This could be true, but I remember hearing Scalia say that there is very little persuading on the court now, that they do more looking for ways to put together coalitions than actually trying to change minds.

If someone else remembers this and can find a citation, or a quote, that would make this a serios point rather than just my recollection.


8 posted on 10/21/2005 6:28:39 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: beyond the sea
But for all those who want her to drop out, Charles Krautmammer has a pretty good solution for that in his latest article.

I just read it. It's nice of him to try, but there is no face saving exit. No matter how well contrived, it will still be seen, rightly so, as contrived. It's especially hard to imagine a scenario outlined in the Washington Post as a face-saving exit strategy being viewed as anything else than a face-saving exit strategy. As with most blunders, the longer it goes on, the worse it gets.

9 posted on 10/21/2005 6:28:57 AM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: katieanna

Bush's presidency is close to being over. He looks like a hapless fool more and more each day by allowing events to consume him, rather than leading. Perfect example is the Plame situation - he has let that fester beyond repair.

The only thing that can save him is for him to regrow his testicles - close the damn borders, veto spending bills, cut taxes, and get his ass over to Baghdad and rally our troops.

I don't want to hear anymore about the "legacy of racism" that's responsible for New Orleans poverty and or anymore guest worker programs for illegals.

And finally, can the GOP nominate somebody in '08 who is articulate and can make a point without stuttering and looking lost? The guy may be smart, but he sure acts like a buffoon.


10 posted on 10/21/2005 6:30:31 AM PDT by GianniV
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To: katieanna
Bush: "who shares the same judicial philosophy that I share"

Translation: "who is just a big a dumba$$ as I am."

11 posted on 10/21/2005 6:31:22 AM PDT by Ranger Drew
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To: CharlesWayneCT
This could be true, but I remember hearing Scalia say that there is very little persuading on the court now,

That would be my guess. I don't think Roberts or anybody else is going to change Ginsberg's mind. We're just trying to collect votes. I hope the one promise she made to our president is "I'll vote with Thomas every time". If she just does that.... we'll be fine.

12 posted on 10/21/2005 6:33:21 AM PDT by kjam22
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Translation: "who is just a big a dumba$$ as I am."

Gee that wasn't straight out of the DUmmy handbook or anything.....agreee or disagree, I think you could do a little better than that, don't you?
13 posted on 10/21/2005 6:35:33 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Pwner of Noobs)
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To: GianniV
Perfect example is the Plame situation - he has let that fester beyond repair.

I believe that is 100% out of his control. What's he supposed to do about it?

14 posted on 10/21/2005 6:35:34 AM PDT by PjhCPA
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To: PjhCPA

That's what I was thinking. What does he suggest... that Bush fire Rove and Cheney?


15 posted on 10/21/2005 6:36:54 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I, too, recall seeing Scalia on TV talk about the atmosphere of the Court. I don't remember who interviewed him, though. Somehow I want to say B. Walters. Anyway, I agree that not much mind-changing goes on, rather the building of coalitions. The nature of the conversations notwithstanding, the idea is that each Justice is "one of equals". On that point, I'd tend to think a conversation on the constitutionality and precedent of a case before the Court could prove embarassing to Miers. I'd be delighted to be wrong.


16 posted on 10/21/2005 6:42:14 AM PDT by katieanna
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To: kjam22
What does he suggest... that Bush fire Rove and Cheney?

That's about the only thing I could think of too.

17 posted on 10/21/2005 6:51:04 AM PDT by PjhCPA
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To: SteveH
With this nomination, so early into his second term, perhaps Bush is declaring war on the Washington insiders, Democrat and Republican.

IOW, this can be seen as a continuation of the Yankee and Cowboy War.

18 posted on 10/21/2005 7:10:30 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: katieanna

"His point is that Roberts, Scalia, Stevens and other Justices could answer any question and then some asked about Griswold and any other widely known case"

They are brilliant people, but don't overestimate their ability to recite case law -- known or obscure -- on a moment's notice.


19 posted on 10/21/2005 7:18:01 AM PDT by USPatriette
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To: katieanna
On that point, I'd tend to think a conversation on the constitutionality and precedent of a case before the Court could prove embarassing to Miers. I'd be delighted to be wrong.

I don't think you are. I heard a Bush soundbite this morning that "she hasn't read this opinion or that opinion to see what someone said. That's why I nominated her." Excuse, isn't that exactly what even competent lawyers, much less a USSCt Justice, supposed to have done!?!

And her answers in the Senate interviews are even more chilling:

Favorite legal writer? "John Grisham"

Favorite SCt Justice? "Earl Warren"

She thinks Griswold case, which read penumbral rights into the Cn, was correct.

She thinks the 14th Amendment requires percentage quotas.

At best she's simply too much an intellectual lighweight to be a USSCt justice. At worst she'll make Sandra Day O'Connor look like Ann Coulter.

20 posted on 10/21/2005 7:19:09 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still voting for evil.)
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