Posted on 10/20/2005 6:18:16 AM PDT by Pokey78
Bump fo' later
Abortion in Russia is illegal after 12 weeks. We can't even fully stop partial birth abortions.
Great, great writing from Steyn.
Most women in this country have abortions within 12 weeks, so such a restriction would not stop most women determined to abort their child.
"Secondly, while Russia did have a problem with abortions at one time, abortion has been strictly restriced by law to the first 12 weeks."
Formally, yes. But in the side alley, you could always slip 50 roubles into a doctor's pocket and he/she would be more than happy to scratch it out of you in his/her appartment. BTW, many women preferred it that way, çause then they got sedated. In the MW's, they kind of had to do without sedation.
While working in Moscow, I was told that abortion is the first choice for birth control and that the average Russian woman has had MULTIPLE abortions.
And its true, what Gary says. We were walking through parks and there were tons of women with strollers and little kids.
I don't understand why Russia doesn't simply outlaw abortions as a matter of national survival. Are their politics as hopelessly feminist-soaked as our own?
Now that would be a good start over here.
ROFL!! And no doubt he has been to Russia zero times but knows it all from reading Newsmax.
But hey, we've got planned parenthood in every city and Soros imbedded in our superior country. So we know how to call the shots, even if the Russians do have ten years olds speaking perfect English and a higher literacy rate.
Never mind that we're dehydrating our elderly daily in "nursing homes" and trying to work out hospice programs for our chronically ill children to save them from the horrors of hospitalization. It is Russia that is hellbent on a death wish, and we who are committed to life. Got that, now?
My opinion of Russia is that communism raised generations to depend on an all-powerful government to tell them what to do and provide them sustenance. Folks who resisted were murdered. What is left are mostly the lemmings who lack the initiative to seek a better future for themselves. The "satellite" countries of Eastern Europe also struggle with this but they had the advantage of finding independence through the guys who stood up to Moscow all those years. Poland is an excellent example of this.
I hope Russia gets their act together because they have a great potential for good throughout the world. But they will need to raise a generation of people full of self-determination before they will be able to have the impact I wish for them.
Maybe, but do you have any references to refute him?
Secondly, while Russia did have a problem with abortions at one time, abortion has been strictly restriced by law to the first 12 weeks.
What does that have to do with a 70% abortion rate? I don't think Steyn offered any statistics on when the abortions were performed, just how many were performed.
What you say might be correct, but without references you won't get far in your argument.
Obviously you have not spent enough time in the company of a Babushka who thinks your children have not eaten enough yet.
Are their politics as hopelessly feminist-soaked as our own?
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Hardly, Russia is still a man's world, and the women dress for them. Russian women put any other women in the world to shame with their stylish clothing. The first time I had a difficult time keeping my head on with all the beautiful women walking around.
Yeah, CIA World Fact book, look up Russia. It would have helped Styne to have looked up some pertenant info too before doing his hit piece.
Well, the Ukrainians and Belaruss are kneck to kneck with the Russians. Hell, most of the women of eastern Europe are also....nothing like being defeminazied.
The thing is, mortality rates are a lie. Why? Because they are based on the average of the whole population. What this means is, if you have a high child birth morality rate but your adults live to 100, you'll still have a low mortality rate. Russia has a 16.5 Infant mortality rate and it is a shameful fact for the country. But medication is improving and so is education (something that was lacking under the Soviets IRT birthing, etc) so the mortality rate will do a sharp increase over the next 5 years.
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