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Mark Steyn: The death of Mother Russia
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 10/22/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 10/20/2005 6:18:16 AM PDT by Pokey78

Reader Jack Fulmer sent me the following item, which appeared a century ago — 13 September 1905 — in the Paris edition of the New York Herald:

Holy War Waged
St. Petersburg: The districts of Zangezur and Jebrail are swarming with Tartar bands under the leadership of chiefs, and in some cases accompanied by Tartar police officials. Green banners are carried and a ‘Holy War’ is being proclaimed. All Armenians, without distinction of sex or age are being massacred. Many thousand Tartar horsemen have crossed the Perso-Russian frontier and joined the insurgents. Horrible scenes attended the destruction of the village of Minkind. Three hundred Armenians were massacred and mutilated. The children were thrown to the dogs and the few survivors were forced to embrace Islamism.
Plus ça change, eh? Last week Islamists killed a big bunch of people in Nalchik, the capital of the hitherto more-or-less safe-ish Russian republic of Kabardino-Balkaria. True, in our more sensitive age the Herald Tribune’s current owners, the New York Times, would never dream of headlining such a report ‘Holy War Waged’, though the Muslim insurgents are fighting for a pan-Caucasian Islamic republic from the Black Sea to the Caspian Sea.

And in the long run it’s hard to see why they won’t get it, the only question being whether it’s still worth getting. Moscow has reduced Grozny to rubble, yet is further than ever from solving its Chechen problem. Moreover, the sheer blundering thuggery of the Russian approach has no merits other than affording Moscow some short-term sadistic pleasure as it exacerbates the situation. The allegedly seething ‘Arab street’, which the West’s media doom-mongers have been predicting for four years will rise up in fury against the Anglo-American infidels, remains as seething as a cul-de-sac in Pinner on a Wednesday afternoon. But the Russian Federation’s Muslim street is real, and on the boil.

Remember the months before 9/11? The new US President had his first meeting with the Russian President. ‘I looked the man in the eye and found him very straightforward and trustworthy,’ George W. Bush said after two hours with Vladimir Putin. ‘I was able to get a sense of his soul.’ I’m all for speaking softly and carrying a big stick, but that’s way too soft; it’s candlelight-dinner-with-the-glow-reflecting-in-the-wine-glass-just-before-you-ask-her-to-dance-to-‘Moonlight-Becomes-You’ soft. Even at the time, many of us felt like yelling at Bush: Get a grip on yourself, man! Lay off the homoerotic stuff about soulmates! This is a KGB apparatchik you’re making eyes at.

But Putin was broadly supportive — or at least not actively non-supportive — on Afghanistan (a very particular case) and Nato expansion (a fait accompli), and some experts started calling Vlad the most Westernised Russian strongman since Peter the Great and cooing about a Russo-American alliance that would be one of the cornerstones of the post-Cold War world.

It’s not like that today. From China to Central Asia to Ukraine, from its covert efforts to maintain Saddam in power to its more or less unashamed patronage of Iran’s nuclear ambitions, Moscow has been at odds with Washington over every key geopolitical issue, and a few non-key ones, too, culminating in Putin’s tirade to Bush that America was flooding Russia with sub-standard chicken drumsticks and keeping the best ones for herself. It was a poultry complaint but indicative of a retreat into old-school Kremlin paranoia. Putin was sending America’s chickens home to roost. I wonder if Bush took a second look into the soulful depths of Vladimir’s eyes and decided he wasn’t quite so finger-lickin’ good after all.

Russia’s export of ideology was the decisive factor in the history of the last century. It seems to me entirely possible that the implosion of Russia could be the decisive factor in this new century. As Iran’s nuke programme suggests, in many of the geopolitical challenges to America there’s usually a Russian component somewhere in the background.

In fairness to Putin, even if he was ‘very straightforward and trustworthy’, he’s in a wretched position. Think of the feet of clay of Western European politicians unwilling to show leadership on the Continent’s moribund economy and deathbed demography. Russia has all the EU’s problems to the nth degree, and then some. ‘Post-imperial decline’ is manageable; a nation of psychotic lemmings isn’t. As I’ve noted before in this space, Russia is literally dying. From a population peak in 1992 of 148 million, it will be down to below 130 million by 2015 and thereafter dropping to perhaps 50 or 60 million by the end of the century, a third of what it was at the fall of the Soviet Union. It needn’t decline at a consistent rate, of course. But I’d say it’s more likely to be even lower than 50 million than it is to be over 100 million. The longer Russia goes without arresting the death spiral, the harder it is to pull out of it, and when it comes to the future most Russian women are voting with their foetus: 70 per cent of pregnancies are aborted.

A smaller population needn’t necessarily be a problem, and especially not for a state with too much of the citizenry on the payroll. But Russia is facing simultaneously a massive ongoing drain of wealth out of the system. Whether or not Dominic Midgley was correct the other day in his assertion that the émigré oligarchs prefer London to America, I cannot say. But I notice my own peripheral backwater of Montreal has also filled up with Russkies whose impressive riches have been acquired recently and swiftly. It doesn’t help the grim demographic scenario if your economic base is also being systematically eaten away.

Add to that the unprecedented strains on a ramshackle public health system. Russia is the sick man of Europe, and would still look pretty sick if you moved him to Africa. It has the fastest-growing rate of HIV infection in the world. From virtually no official Aids cases at the time Putin took office, in the last five years more Russians have tested positive than in the previous 20 for America. The virus is said to have infected at least 1 per cent of the population, the figure the World Health Organisation considers the tipping point for a sub-Saharan-sized epidemic. So at a time when Russian men already have a life expectancy in the mid-50s — lower than in Bangladesh — they’re about to see Aids cut them down from the other end, killing young men and women of childbearing age, and with them any hope of societal regeneration. By 2010, Aids will be killing between a quarter and three-quarters of a million Russians every year. It will become a nation of babushkas, unable to muster enough young soldiers to secure its borders, enough young businessmen to secure its economy or enough young families to secure its future. True, there are regions that are exceptions to these malign trends, parts of Russia that have healthy fertility rates and low HIV infection. Can you guess which regions they are? They start with a ‘Mu-’ and end with a ‘-slim’.

So the world’s largest country is dying and the only question is how violent its death throes are. Yesterday’s Russia was characterised by Churchill as a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. Today’s has come unwrapped: it’s a crisis in a disaster inside a catastrophe. Most of the big international problems operate within certain geographic constraints: Africa has Aids, the Middle East has Islamists, North Korea has nukes. But Russia’s got the lot: an African-level Aids crisis and an Islamist separatist movement sitting on top of the biggest pile of nukes on the planet. Of course, the nuclear materials are all in ‘secure’ facilities — more secure, one hopes, than the secure public buildings in Nalchik that the Islamists took over with such ease last week.

Russia is the bleakest example on the planet of how we worry about all the wrong things. For 40 years the environmentalists have warned us that the jig was up: there are too many people (see Paul Ehrlich’s comic masterpiece of 1970 The Population Bomb) and too few resources — as the Club of Rome warned in its 1972 landmark study The Limits To Growth, the world will run out of gold by 1981, of mercury by 1985, tin by 1987, zinc by 1990, petroleum by 1992, and copper, lead and gas by 1993. Instead, poor old Russia is awash with resources but fatally short of Russians — and, in the end, warm bodies are the one indispensable resource.

What would you do if you were Putin? What have you got to keep your rotting corpse of a country as some kind of player? You’ve got nuclear know-how — which a lot of ayatollahs and dictators are interested in. You’ve got an empty resource-rich eastern hinterland — which the Chinese are going to wind up with one way or the other. That was the logic, incidentally, behind the sale of Alaska: in the 1850s, Grand Duke Konstantin Nikolaevich, the brother of Alexander II, argued that the Russian empire couldn’t hold its North American territory and that one day either Britain or the United States would simply take it, so why not sell it to them first? The same argument applies today to the 2,000 miles of the Russo–Chinese border. Given that even alcoholic Slavs with a life expectancy of 56 will live to see Vladivostok return to its old name of Haishenwei, Moscow might as well flog it to Beijing instead of just having it snaffled out from under.

That’s the danger for America — that most of what Russia has to trade is likely to be damaging to US interests. In its death throes, it could bequeath the world several new Muslim nations, a nuclear Middle East and a stronger China. In theory, America could do a belated follow-up to the Alaska deal and put in a bid for Siberia. But Russia’s calculation is that sooner or later we’ll be back in a bipolar world and that, in almost any scenario, there’s more advantage in being part of the non-American pole. A Sino–Russian strategic partnership has a certain logic to it, and so, in a darker way, does a Russo–Muslim alliance of convenience. In 1989, with the Warsaw Pact crumbling before his eyes, poor old Mikhail Gorbachev received a helpful bit of advice from the cocky young upstart on the block, the Ayatollah Khomeini: ‘I strongly urge that in breaking down the walls of Marxist fantasies you do not fall into the prison of the West and the Great Satan,’ wrote the pioneer Islamist nutcase. ‘I openly announce that the Islamic Republic of Iran, as the greatest and most powerful base of the Islamic world, can easily help fill up the ideological vacuum of your system.’

In an odd way, that’s what happened everywhere but the Kremlin. As communism retreated, radical Islam seeped into Afghanistan and Indonesia and the Balkans. Crazy guys holed up in Philippine jungles and the tri-border region of Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay which would have been ‘Marxist fantasists’ a generation or two back are now Islamists: it’s the ideology du jour. Even the otherwise perplexing enthusiasm of the western Left for the jihad’s misogynist homophobe theocrats is best understood as a latterday variation on the Hitler/Stalin pact. And, despite Gorbachev turning down the offer, it will be Russia’s fate to have large chunks of its turf annexed by the Islamic world.

We are witnessing a remarkable event: the death of a great nation not through war or devastation but through its inability to rouse itself from its own suicidal tendencies. The ‘ideological vacuum’ was mostly filled with a nihilist fatalism. Churchill got it wrong: Russia is a vacuum wrapped in a nullity inside an abyss.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
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To: vox_PL

As a matter of fact, if Poland had stood with Czeckoslavakia against the Nazis in 1937 and 1938 that might have aborted World War II, but you had greed in your heart and did nothing but aid the Nazis.


301 posted on 10/25/2005 12:21:08 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: vox_PL
I will show you nothing since your brain damage is irretrivable. Wasting of time

Wow, you sound just like a leftist who's been pushed into a cornor and can't figure out how to get out. Good, I feel like I accomplished something on this thread, thrown the truth back into your hate filled face.

302 posted on 10/25/2005 12:22:19 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: vox_PL
HE WAS RUSSIAN, SINCE HE SPOKE RUSSIAN AND LIVED IN RUSSIA.

Wow, so most Poles are also Russian, since they were part of the Russian empire. So, I was stationed in Germany, so I lived in Germany, and I speak German, does that make me German? Your argument is something I'd expect from my ten year old daughter not a grown man who claims to have intelligence.

303 posted on 10/25/2005 12:24:03 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: redgolum

" Russia is mearly leading the charge off the cliff. The EU, and then the rest of the West, will be following along shortly."

Perfect conditions for the birth of a Hitler type leader leading a holy war.


305 posted on 10/25/2005 12:28:51 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: claudiustg

"Nobody said anthing about a bunch of third worlders coming to eat our lunch. Funny how we missed that part."

Funny thing that the proponents of population reduction seem to be the biggest cheerleaders for the immivasion of the western world.


306 posted on 10/25/2005 12:31:39 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: vox_PL
Any talking to you is absolutely pointless. It's like talking to the wall, just pointless.

Because I don't buy your lies and victimhood? Welp guess that ain't going to change any time soon. I'll let your heart rot with hate, though I'll say a prayer for your salvation.

307 posted on 10/25/2005 2:22:03 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: vox_PL
Show me just one Russia neighbouring country which likes being a neighbor of Russia.

Sure: Belaruss, Kazakstan, China, Mongolia, Finland, and on and off Ukraine (which is leaning away from you again and back towards the Russians). A bit further out, the Russians are on very good terms with Kyrzstan, Uzebekistan, Turkmenistan, Turkistan, Brazil, Armenia, Serbia, Macedonia, Greece, Cyprus, Iran (unfortunetly), S.Korea, Phillipines, Indonesia, India, Italy, Germany, France, Austria, Spain, Portugal, Argentina, and quite a few more. Your point? I'm sure the Germans, French and others would like you a lot more if you weren't climbing into their pockets with your hands out.

308 posted on 10/25/2005 2:25:47 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: vox_PL; ValenB4; anonymoussierra; zagor-te-nej; Freelance Warrior; kedr; Sober 4 Today; ...
EVERY NEIGHBOURING COUNTRY HATES RUSSIANS BECAUSE THE ARE PURE EVIL!

You are a true idiot. A brain dead idiot. A bigot, a racist and no better then the accusations you make against others. Your heart is black with evil and hatred and the only place you'll have to look forward to in the afterlife will leave you with a nice tan.

309 posted on 10/25/2005 2:27:39 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: ichabod1
This thread seems to have turned into a major Slavic brawl involving people that I don't think English is their first language. That's different! :-).
312 posted on 10/25/2005 4:06:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Neither the depth of despondency nor the height of euphoria tells you how long either will last. ")
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To: vox_PL
EVERY NEIGHBOURING COUNTRY HATES RUSSIANS BECAUSE THE ARE PURE EVIL!

I take issue with that since I am Russian by blood. My family came to the USA from Russia (escaping from the Soviets...and trust me, Soviets are NOT Russian. They may look the same and speak the same language but they are NOT Russian) by way of Europe and the Holy Land.

We keep the culture alive through language and Orthodoxy. "Evil" does not describe any Russian person I have ever met.

313 posted on 10/25/2005 5:31:54 PM PDT by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: vox_PL
In 1939 Russia invaded Finland. Ask Finns - they don't like Russians!

In 1939 Russia did not exist. As I have said before there is a huge difference between SOVIETS and Russians.

314 posted on 10/25/2005 5:34:49 PM PDT by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: vox_PL
If I'm an idiot (as you claim), you're a double one!

Wow, did you mom teach you that for when the other kids picked on you?

As for my neighbors, they're Mexico and Canada or can't you figure that one out.

As for Russia's neighbors, guess you don't read to well, I listed them first.

315 posted on 10/25/2005 8:48:46 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: blinachka

vox_PL has a very selective and chauvinistic view of history. When Poland attacked its neighbors, well it was manifest destiny and good...when those neighbors returned fire it was because they are uncivilized savages (except the Germans for whom he will say not a single bad word, regardless they actually tried to exterminate the Poles....must be because the Germans are paying for the Polish welfare state of 19% unemployment).


316 posted on 10/25/2005 8:52:03 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: blinachka

When you are a blatant racist such as vox_PL, all Russians are evil, including the little children at their mother's breast...they'll just grow up to be big Russians and must be dealt with now. The racist mind at work, no different then the Nazis except Poland doesn't have a war machine worth mentioning.


317 posted on 10/25/2005 8:53:29 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: vox_PL
YOU ARE HATED EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not everywhere. Belarus, Eastern Ukraine, Abkhasia, South Ossetia, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, China are our good neighbours. And Russia is a partner for many countries of the world.

Anyway, I don't see any difficulties with polish hatred. Just a small country with silly politics...

"Sobaka laet - karavan idet" ("Dog is barking but caravan is moving") - Russian proverb.
318 posted on 10/25/2005 9:19:04 PM PDT by mym (Russia)
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To: vox_PL

In 1939 Russia invaded Finland. Ask Finns - they don't like Russians! ==

In 1939 it was Soviet Union with which those finn went into deal in 1918. It just said that you haven't deal with bolshevicks.
Finns are not ignorant like you and they know difference.
Accually as ethnicity the russanry was created from slavic and finish tribes of Northern Europe. So finns are ethnic brothers for russians. They know that.


319 posted on 10/25/2005 10:41:12 PM PDT by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: vox_PL; jb6

HE WAS RUSSIAN, SINCE HE SPOKE RUSSIAN AND LIVED IN RUSSIA.==

According vox_PL logic everyone who live in America and speak english are americans:).
I beleive that vast majority of this forum will disgree to recognise 10 mlns of illegal in America as true fellow americans. They will correct Vox_PL:)))).


320 posted on 10/25/2005 10:47:37 PM PDT by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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