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Mark Steyn: The death of Mother Russia
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 10/22/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 10/20/2005 6:18:16 AM PDT by Pokey78

Reader Jack Fulmer sent me the following item, which appeared a century ago — 13 September 1905 — in the Paris edition of the New York Herald:

Holy War Waged
St. Petersburg: The districts of Zangezur and Jebrail are swarming with Tartar bands under the leadership of chiefs, and in some cases accompanied by Tartar police officials. Green banners are carried and a ‘Holy War’ is being proclaimed. All Armenians, without distinction of sex or age are being massacred. Many thousand Tartar horsemen have crossed the Perso-Russian frontier and joined the insurgents. Horrible scenes attended the destruction of the village of Minkind. Three hundred Armenians were massacred and mutilated. The children were thrown to the dogs and the few survivors were forced to embrace Islamism.
Plus ça change, eh? Last week Islamists killed a big bunch of people in Nalchik, the capital of the hitherto more-or-less safe-ish Russian republic of Kabardino-Balkaria. True, in our more sensitive age the Herald Tribune’s current owners, the New York Times, would never dream of headlining such a report ‘Holy War Waged’, though the Muslim insurgents are fighting for a pan-Caucasian Islamic republic from the Black Sea to the Caspian Sea.

And in the long run it’s hard to see why they won’t get it, the only question being whether it’s still worth getting. Moscow has reduced Grozny to rubble, yet is further than ever from solving its Chechen problem. Moreover, the sheer blundering thuggery of the Russian approach has no merits other than affording Moscow some short-term sadistic pleasure as it exacerbates the situation. The allegedly seething ‘Arab street’, which the West’s media doom-mongers have been predicting for four years will rise up in fury against the Anglo-American infidels, remains as seething as a cul-de-sac in Pinner on a Wednesday afternoon. But the Russian Federation’s Muslim street is real, and on the boil.

Remember the months before 9/11? The new US President had his first meeting with the Russian President. ‘I looked the man in the eye and found him very straightforward and trustworthy,’ George W. Bush said after two hours with Vladimir Putin. ‘I was able to get a sense of his soul.’ I’m all for speaking softly and carrying a big stick, but that’s way too soft; it’s candlelight-dinner-with-the-glow-reflecting-in-the-wine-glass-just-before-you-ask-her-to-dance-to-‘Moonlight-Becomes-You’ soft. Even at the time, many of us felt like yelling at Bush: Get a grip on yourself, man! Lay off the homoerotic stuff about soulmates! This is a KGB apparatchik you’re making eyes at.

But Putin was broadly supportive — or at least not actively non-supportive — on Afghanistan (a very particular case) and Nato expansion (a fait accompli), and some experts started calling Vlad the most Westernised Russian strongman since Peter the Great and cooing about a Russo-American alliance that would be one of the cornerstones of the post-Cold War world.

It’s not like that today. From China to Central Asia to Ukraine, from its covert efforts to maintain Saddam in power to its more or less unashamed patronage of Iran’s nuclear ambitions, Moscow has been at odds with Washington over every key geopolitical issue, and a few non-key ones, too, culminating in Putin’s tirade to Bush that America was flooding Russia with sub-standard chicken drumsticks and keeping the best ones for herself. It was a poultry complaint but indicative of a retreat into old-school Kremlin paranoia. Putin was sending America’s chickens home to roost. I wonder if Bush took a second look into the soulful depths of Vladimir’s eyes and decided he wasn’t quite so finger-lickin’ good after all.

Russia’s export of ideology was the decisive factor in the history of the last century. It seems to me entirely possible that the implosion of Russia could be the decisive factor in this new century. As Iran’s nuke programme suggests, in many of the geopolitical challenges to America there’s usually a Russian component somewhere in the background.

In fairness to Putin, even if he was ‘very straightforward and trustworthy’, he’s in a wretched position. Think of the feet of clay of Western European politicians unwilling to show leadership on the Continent’s moribund economy and deathbed demography. Russia has all the EU’s problems to the nth degree, and then some. ‘Post-imperial decline’ is manageable; a nation of psychotic lemmings isn’t. As I’ve noted before in this space, Russia is literally dying. From a population peak in 1992 of 148 million, it will be down to below 130 million by 2015 and thereafter dropping to perhaps 50 or 60 million by the end of the century, a third of what it was at the fall of the Soviet Union. It needn’t decline at a consistent rate, of course. But I’d say it’s more likely to be even lower than 50 million than it is to be over 100 million. The longer Russia goes without arresting the death spiral, the harder it is to pull out of it, and when it comes to the future most Russian women are voting with their foetus: 70 per cent of pregnancies are aborted.

A smaller population needn’t necessarily be a problem, and especially not for a state with too much of the citizenry on the payroll. But Russia is facing simultaneously a massive ongoing drain of wealth out of the system. Whether or not Dominic Midgley was correct the other day in his assertion that the émigré oligarchs prefer London to America, I cannot say. But I notice my own peripheral backwater of Montreal has also filled up with Russkies whose impressive riches have been acquired recently and swiftly. It doesn’t help the grim demographic scenario if your economic base is also being systematically eaten away.

Add to that the unprecedented strains on a ramshackle public health system. Russia is the sick man of Europe, and would still look pretty sick if you moved him to Africa. It has the fastest-growing rate of HIV infection in the world. From virtually no official Aids cases at the time Putin took office, in the last five years more Russians have tested positive than in the previous 20 for America. The virus is said to have infected at least 1 per cent of the population, the figure the World Health Organisation considers the tipping point for a sub-Saharan-sized epidemic. So at a time when Russian men already have a life expectancy in the mid-50s — lower than in Bangladesh — they’re about to see Aids cut them down from the other end, killing young men and women of childbearing age, and with them any hope of societal regeneration. By 2010, Aids will be killing between a quarter and three-quarters of a million Russians every year. It will become a nation of babushkas, unable to muster enough young soldiers to secure its borders, enough young businessmen to secure its economy or enough young families to secure its future. True, there are regions that are exceptions to these malign trends, parts of Russia that have healthy fertility rates and low HIV infection. Can you guess which regions they are? They start with a ‘Mu-’ and end with a ‘-slim’.

So the world’s largest country is dying and the only question is how violent its death throes are. Yesterday’s Russia was characterised by Churchill as a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. Today’s has come unwrapped: it’s a crisis in a disaster inside a catastrophe. Most of the big international problems operate within certain geographic constraints: Africa has Aids, the Middle East has Islamists, North Korea has nukes. But Russia’s got the lot: an African-level Aids crisis and an Islamist separatist movement sitting on top of the biggest pile of nukes on the planet. Of course, the nuclear materials are all in ‘secure’ facilities — more secure, one hopes, than the secure public buildings in Nalchik that the Islamists took over with such ease last week.

Russia is the bleakest example on the planet of how we worry about all the wrong things. For 40 years the environmentalists have warned us that the jig was up: there are too many people (see Paul Ehrlich’s comic masterpiece of 1970 The Population Bomb) and too few resources — as the Club of Rome warned in its 1972 landmark study The Limits To Growth, the world will run out of gold by 1981, of mercury by 1985, tin by 1987, zinc by 1990, petroleum by 1992, and copper, lead and gas by 1993. Instead, poor old Russia is awash with resources but fatally short of Russians — and, in the end, warm bodies are the one indispensable resource.

What would you do if you were Putin? What have you got to keep your rotting corpse of a country as some kind of player? You’ve got nuclear know-how — which a lot of ayatollahs and dictators are interested in. You’ve got an empty resource-rich eastern hinterland — which the Chinese are going to wind up with one way or the other. That was the logic, incidentally, behind the sale of Alaska: in the 1850s, Grand Duke Konstantin Nikolaevich, the brother of Alexander II, argued that the Russian empire couldn’t hold its North American territory and that one day either Britain or the United States would simply take it, so why not sell it to them first? The same argument applies today to the 2,000 miles of the Russo–Chinese border. Given that even alcoholic Slavs with a life expectancy of 56 will live to see Vladivostok return to its old name of Haishenwei, Moscow might as well flog it to Beijing instead of just having it snaffled out from under.

That’s the danger for America — that most of what Russia has to trade is likely to be damaging to US interests. In its death throes, it could bequeath the world several new Muslim nations, a nuclear Middle East and a stronger China. In theory, America could do a belated follow-up to the Alaska deal and put in a bid for Siberia. But Russia’s calculation is that sooner or later we’ll be back in a bipolar world and that, in almost any scenario, there’s more advantage in being part of the non-American pole. A Sino–Russian strategic partnership has a certain logic to it, and so, in a darker way, does a Russo–Muslim alliance of convenience. In 1989, with the Warsaw Pact crumbling before his eyes, poor old Mikhail Gorbachev received a helpful bit of advice from the cocky young upstart on the block, the Ayatollah Khomeini: ‘I strongly urge that in breaking down the walls of Marxist fantasies you do not fall into the prison of the West and the Great Satan,’ wrote the pioneer Islamist nutcase. ‘I openly announce that the Islamic Republic of Iran, as the greatest and most powerful base of the Islamic world, can easily help fill up the ideological vacuum of your system.’

In an odd way, that’s what happened everywhere but the Kremlin. As communism retreated, radical Islam seeped into Afghanistan and Indonesia and the Balkans. Crazy guys holed up in Philippine jungles and the tri-border region of Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay which would have been ‘Marxist fantasists’ a generation or two back are now Islamists: it’s the ideology du jour. Even the otherwise perplexing enthusiasm of the western Left for the jihad’s misogynist homophobe theocrats is best understood as a latterday variation on the Hitler/Stalin pact. And, despite Gorbachev turning down the offer, it will be Russia’s fate to have large chunks of its turf annexed by the Islamic world.

We are witnessing a remarkable event: the death of a great nation not through war or devastation but through its inability to rouse itself from its own suicidal tendencies. The ‘ideological vacuum’ was mostly filled with a nihilist fatalism. Churchill got it wrong: Russia is a vacuum wrapped in a nullity inside an abyss.


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To: vox_PL; jb6

...to exterminate their pagan neighbors
Those pagan neighbours were slaughtering the people of Mazovia. ==

So if someone killed poles then poles had right for genocide? Hypocrisy again:).

Russian proverb: "He sees a little thorn in other eye but in his own he cann't see even log."


281 posted on 10/25/2005 10:03:39 AM PDT by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: vox_PL

Only in your own hate filled Chauvinistic mind.
For millions of murdered Poles you deserve nothing else!==

"Millions"? Prove it!

You already claimed that 10 mlns poles immigrated to USA in 19 century. But American census berau cann't confirm that.
So you lied once about "millions" of poles.


283 posted on 10/25/2005 10:09:18 AM PDT by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: vox_PL

Explenation is very simple, very very easy to understand for intelligent people. For you it will be beyond the frontiers of perception, so I quit.==

Of cause how you may prove that those towns are "polish"? No ways.
But you pretend that those towns belongs to mythical "eastern Poland". Unfortunately ukranians, lithvinians, and belorusses disagree with you:).

How so?:)). Why your so loved new accquired friens ds disgree to return to Poland "eastern polish" lands?:)))


285 posted on 10/25/2005 10:13:12 AM PDT by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: vox_PL

So if someone killed poles then poles had right for genocide?

What genocide, you idiot???!!!

The Teutonic Order murdered Prussians, not Poles!!! The whole world knows that! Stop spreading such virulous lies or I'm report abuse!!! ==

yES OH HOW i COULD FORGET:)). Pole just INVITED teutons to do so:). So it is all teutons guilty, the polish hands are clean:).

Whata hypocricy again:).


286 posted on 10/25/2005 10:15:13 AM PDT by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: vox_PL

"Besides, Russia is the biggest aggressor and thief ever.

"Show me an ancient map with Siberia belonging to Russia"

It seems that you know our secret. You know that before Siberia in a way of bloody overturns was joined to Russia it was belonged to POLAND & now Poles demand of recognitions from Russia these territories as historical
Polish & unlawful bereaved of its owners (of cause with reparation payments for revolting illegally utilization of the natural resources which belong to a grate Polish nation).


289 posted on 10/25/2005 11:08:45 AM PDT by iva
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To: vox_PL

Prove it!

You aren't worth any conversation. You proved many times you have concrete instead of brain so any conversation is pointless. ===

It is not me, it US census bureau:). They failed to find 10 mlns poles in USA in 1990 as you claimed.
So it is THEY who with "contrete instead of brain":))). THEY who guilty before you:).

I can be your mortal enemy only for all those countless crimes you Russians did to Poland.==

It is in your imagination since you cann't prove it. Hence your hate will eat you out.


290 posted on 10/25/2005 11:34:29 AM PDT by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: vox_PL

Nobody knew at that time what it meant and what true intentions of the Order were.=

It sounds like you are trying to excuse poles from genocide of prussians with very usual augument.

"We didn't know it is this Hitler. He deceived us." Ususal excuse of those small nazi sympatizers after the war.
Same as yours.


291 posted on 10/25/2005 11:39:28 AM PDT by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: vox_PL
Moscow will enslave and kill us all.

MMMM, nothing like the smell of a low self opinion expressed by hatred towards another. Soooo very Christian.

293 posted on 10/25/2005 12:04:11 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: vox_PL; GarySpFc
How about the million of Russians, Rutheans, White Rus and Black Rus murdered by the Poles through 500 years of occupation and tyranny. Or shall I for the 50th time make you look like a fool and post various articles of Polish persecutions in Ukraine, Belarus and Russia (not to mention Lithuania and Prussia) from the 1300s to the 1900s, when Poland again gained a chunk of that land? Your hands drip with blood but you act like some saint, trying to count on us Americans not having a clue about history. Wrong forum for that. You can pawn your chauvinistic fascist victimhood on your own forums but it won't work here. Poland even invited the Teutonics in to settle the border and get rid of the Prussian tribesmen that Poland couldn't handle. After the Teutonics did their jobs (and took on the name Prussian themselves), Poland invaded them and annexed them to itself. Oh, so clean handed of you.
294 posted on 10/25/2005 12:09:12 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: vox_PL
Criminals like the Polish Red Felix, master of the Red Terror that killed 30+ million Russians, Ukrainians and Belaruss? And he's but one of a large number of Poles in Lenin's merry bunch. But you prefer that everyone forgets that, about Polish criminals in the communist party and about Polish criminals in Nationalist Poland who burned down Orthodox churches and persecuted Ukrainians and Belaruss as soon as they had the chance. No, you're just innocent, really your are. Your only mistake is that you broke your cooperation with Hitler after 1938, when you got what you wanted. But post 1939 is also your excuse for victimhood.
295 posted on 10/25/2005 12:12:10 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: vox_PL; RusIvan
Not Poles but Pope Alexander IV who was deceived by the German Order of the Holy Virgin Mary which lied to the Pope that Europe is in jeopardy from the pagans.

Good excuse to use that order to exterminate a whole race of people, your neighbors, and then like those thieves, you turned on them, backstabbed them and annexed their lands...show me an ancient map where Poland owns Prussia or even Galicia (the Black Rus, whom you also managed to get rid of) or Lvov, before the Mongol invasions gave you the opportunity.

296 posted on 10/25/2005 12:15:19 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: vox_PL; RusIvan; GarySpFc; MarMema; iva
Yet, talking to you, talking to Russians brings the worst to my mind.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that "worst" is always there and this just gives you an excuse to show the chauvinistic boar you are. I'm sure you'd have no problems with exterminations of the Russian untermensch, would you? Your speech is nothing but black hatred, a reflection of your true self, I'm sure.

298 posted on 10/25/2005 12:17:55 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: jb6

Polish Red Felix == Polish Iron Felix


299 posted on 10/25/2005 12:19:19 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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