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To: Red Badger

"Coyotes".
Pfft.
They're wolf hybrids.

We're up to our necks in 'em now.

http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/local_news/story/fef373e9d

A pack of them came menacingly down off the ridge towards my dad.
He had to back up a couple hundred feet, maintaining eye contact with them until he got to his truck and his rifle.

"Bold" and "big" doesn't even begin to describe them.

If Rockville thinks the coy-wolves are bad, they should just wait a while.
We have mountain lions now too although the DNR vehemently denies it.
They're moving steadily eastward.

[we're supposed to believe the DNR rather than our own lying eyes]


5 posted on 10/19/2005 9:24:11 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight)
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To: Salamander

We've got 'em here in the Florida Panhandle now, too. See them fairly regularly, but single not in packs. Maybe we need a bounty?...........


7 posted on 10/19/2005 9:31:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: Salamander

Time to call out the Plott Hounds. I guess modern day Irish Wolfhounds are a shadow of their former selves and unlikely to be of much use in controlling these critters.

Most of the other larger breeds which could take them on are probably too slow to actually catch one - I'm thi9nking dogs like Tibetan Mastiffs and related types. Strong enough, but too slow.

Plott Hound packs and hunters with guns to follow them may be the way to go.


11 posted on 10/19/2005 9:36:28 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Salamander
I wouldn't believe the DNR if they said the sun would set tonight or rise tomorrow..

Around here they have always had their little secret 'projects'

Exporting animals to other states and importing animals.

We had Timber wolves here 30 yrs ago and the DNR denied it even if you showed them photos..

We also have Mountain Lions...friend of mine and his dogs put one up a tree a few years back and ten years ago. I used to find their tracks near my traps in the winter..Our DNR denied their existance but then a few years later it came out we traded some of our nuisance Fishers for someonelese's nuisance Mountain Lions

If coy-wolves are whats really in these packs I would not be surprised..that would explain why coyotes over the last few years have been operating as packs rather than solitary individuals..a few 70lbs coy-wolves could do anyone serious damage not just their little dogs and cats anymore either.

I would also not be surprised to learn that some biologists were experimenting with coyote wolf hybrids themselves or that these 'got away' from them and began to breed with coyotes.

Walked my shepherd pup on a local bike trail yesterday and found fresh coyote spoor on my back track a few minutes after we had passed and on our way home..

The yote didn't show himself but sure wanted us to know he
was around..

When they quit the bounty on them their numbers went way up as did their nuisance factor...the liberal animal rights DNR around here would protect them over all domestic animals and landowners..

S3

imo

21 posted on 10/19/2005 9:56:15 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Salamander
I guess it has to be left to the local situation for wildlife management.

On my brother's place just south of Breckenridge, Texas (Necessity, TX) it was decided to leave the coyotes. Every other weekend three feral pigs would be shot and dragged off to a back pasture for the coyotes to feast on.

The feral pigs are being culled, the coyotes are not eating calves/goats/sheep and you have something to shoot everytime out.

30 posted on 10/19/2005 11:17:18 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: Salamander

What state are you in?


35 posted on 10/19/2005 12:09:31 PM PDT by kx9088
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To: Salamander

Down here in Georgia they are so thick you can put out dead livestock and 10-15 would show up to dine. The bad thing is that they used to be small- about 25 lbs, but after breeding with some larger dogs they have become 40-75 pounders. The yipping and howling of ten or more coyotes in your yard will make you think twice about getting that firewood. On a lighter note, they really do a number on rats, mice and grasshoppers and you rarely see them in daylight hours. I had one that waited by the roadside to cross every night at the same time- beautiful animal, but stayed a little too long in the public eye and disappeared. We worry more about snakes and gators down here, and 2 legged vermin.


53 posted on 10/19/2005 6:20:34 PM PDT by Rocketwolf68
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To: Salamander
We have mountain lions now too although the DNR vehemently denies it.

We used to get that BS from the Minnesota DNR,until too many videos showed up on the local TV newscast to ignore.

Then they claimed that they were released pets and weren't a breeding population,Until videos showed up of mother cougars with kittens.

Now they just keep their mouths shut because they realized that were starting to look like idiots.

Now they list Cougars on the DNR website as Minnesota Mammals,but claim they were never common.

Must be all them deer,rabbits,and other small edible mammals and vegative cover that scared them away. Minnesota Cougars

We have had sightings in the Twin Cities Metro area.

I contend that even if the first generation started out as released pets,The following generations are wild cougars and no different than if the DNR had transplanted them from somewhere else.

57 posted on 10/19/2005 6:33:30 PM PDT by HP8753 (My cat is an NTSB Standard,The Naval Observatory calls me for time corrections.)
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To: Salamander

We are having the same problem here in Central Kentucky. For the past several years there have been a rash of mountain lion sightings, with some photos taken in a few incidents, but the authorities don't want to admit that they have a lion on the prowl, so they that the sightings are probably just Golden Retrievers and that the cattle have been killed by black bears, coyotes, or wild dogs. I'm sorry, but I've seen the photos and the castings of their paw prints and we've got a catamount on the loose.


79 posted on 10/20/2005 2:58:47 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("Those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.")
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To: Salamander

My hubby saw a cougar yesterday while bowhunting in Lovettsville (northern Loudoun County). He wasn't quite quick enough with the digital camera to get a pic of it.


81 posted on 10/21/2005 4:41:46 AM PDT by gieriscm
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