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What is the Difference Between Conservatives and White Nationalists?
October 19, 2005 | ComtedeMaistre

Posted on 10/19/2005 6:05:00 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

A Political Science Professor at the University of Maryland, Prof. Ronald Walters, recently published a book suggesting that American conservatism is heavily influenced by what he calls "White Nationalism": http://wsupress.wayne.edu/africana/afrlabor/walterswn.htm

The Professor is reputed to be a leftist, and he doesn't like conservatives. But how does one explain the influence that some White nationalists such as Pat Buchanan, Peter Brimelow, Jared Taylor and the late Sam Francis have had on the conservative movement?

Both conservatives and white nationalists want to preserve Western civilization. But White Nationalists argue that Western civilization cannot exist without whites. Do most conservatives really believe that race is irrelevant in the preservation of Western civilization?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bookreview; conservatism; culture; leftists; republicans; ronaldwalters; westerncivilization; whitenationalism
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I would really like to hear views from paleoconservatives and neoconservatives on this topic.
1 posted on 10/19/2005 6:05:04 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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Do most conservatives really believe that race is irrelevant in the preservation of Western civilization?

Yes.

2 posted on 10/19/2005 6:11:51 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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The professor is a racist. End of story.


3 posted on 10/19/2005 6:12:54 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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Conservatives come from all different backgrounds and races.

FR itself has plenty of black and Hispanic conservatives.

4 posted on 10/19/2005 6:13:21 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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Define white nationalists. Would they be like the reverse of the Black Caucus or Nation of Islam or something like that?


5 posted on 10/19/2005 6:13:55 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Neo-conservative here. No, race has nothing whatsoever to do with Western Civilization. When we say we want to preserve "Western Civilization" heritage, values, etc. We mean Judeo/Christian philosophy of life. What that means is personal responsibility, freedom, self-reliance, rule of law, etc.
Sure, we have some wackos that share some of the same values. But the opposite side does as well.


7 posted on 10/19/2005 6:19:11 AM PDT by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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I would really like to hear views from paleoconservatives and neoconservatives on this topic.

You've been around FR for a couple of years, and you have an interesting posting history. What kind of conservative do you consider yourself to be? It seems to me that if you were a conservative yourself, you wouldn't have to ask this question.

8 posted on 10/19/2005 6:20:35 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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I'm a Fuchsia Nationalist.

Although I do have to admit I've toyed with the idea of being an Ultramarine Nationalist.

9 posted on 10/19/2005 6:20:46 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
But how does one explain the influence that some White nationalists such as Pat Buchanan, Peter Brimelow, Jared Taylor and the late Sam Francis have had on the conservative movement?

How does one explain the influence that the Unibomber, Louis Farrakah or communist historian Howard Zinn have had on the liberal movement?

11 posted on 10/19/2005 6:21:54 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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What is the difference between liberals and black nationalists? Your question is based on false premises and is not worth responding to. It is part of the Dem propaganda effort to link the GOP and conservatives to racism.


12 posted on 10/19/2005 6:22:51 AM PDT by kabar
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What is the Difference Between Conservatives and White Nationalists?

First and foremost and immediate: race.

13 posted on 10/19/2005 6:24:08 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

I wonder what the "professor" thinks of Black Nationalism and is it a "conservative" movement? (hehe)


14 posted on 10/19/2005 6:24:24 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: ComtedeMaistre

There is an implication here that liberals do not want to preserve western civilization. While their ridiculous political ideas help the cause of ending western civiliation, most liberals do not really want that, or they certainly won't like it if it occurs. Fallacy number 1.

Fallacy 2: Who in the conservative movement ever said that white people are necessary to preserve western civilization? Western civilzation is simply a way of life and law rooted in roman and greek history....are romans considered to be white or caucasion?

This is just a not so clever ploy to associate conservatism with racism...pretty pathetic when you cosider all the black, hispanic, and asian conservatives out there. The leftist professor has got his brain in his arse...as is typical of leftists....


15 posted on 10/19/2005 6:25:21 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: ComtedeMaistre

What does skin color have to do with ideas and beliefs?


16 posted on 10/19/2005 6:26:47 AM PDT by tiki
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"White Nationalists" = NAZI, KKK, Aryan Nation.

The professor in this story has obviously bought into and is now spewing the "GOP = NAZI" equation every freak since the late 60's holds as gospel.

They could'nt be more wrong if they were trying.


17 posted on 10/19/2005 6:27:26 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [Quicquid peius optimo nefas])
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To: ComtedeMaistre
White Nationalists argue that Western civilization cannot exist without whites.

They hate the Jews, Blacks, and everybody not Christian.

I don't.

18 posted on 10/19/2005 6:27:41 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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What is the difference between socialists, communists and Nazis? Not a whole lot, those philosophies all view people according the their perceived membership in a designated group.

Conservatives, OTOH, are much more likely to view people as individuals.


19 posted on 10/19/2005 6:29:18 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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A Political Science Professor at the University of Maryland, Prof. Ronald Walters, recently published a book suggesting that American conservatism is heavily influenced by what he calls "White Nationalism":

Conservatives are influenced by American Nationalism. Liberals are influenced by Socialist Internationalism.

20 posted on 10/19/2005 6:29:52 AM PDT by Always Right
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