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Psychological group urges end of Indian mascots
ESPN ^ | 10/18/05 | AP

Posted on 10/18/2005 6:33:06 PM PDT by MplsSteve

The American Psychological Association wants to eliminate the use of American Indian mascots, contending they create stereotypes and damage self-esteem.

"American Indian mascots are harmful not only because they are often negative, but because they remind American Indians of the limited ways in which others see them," Stephanie Fryberg said in a statement. "This in turn restricts the number of ways American Indians can see themselves."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: North Dakota; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: americanindians; apa; mascots; ncaa; psychology; seminoles
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There's now a psychological component to this issue?!

Truth be told, I think that when schools chose an Indian as their mascot, it was a recognition of positive traits like strength, power, etc.

Anyone else wanna weigh in on this subject?

1 posted on 10/18/2005 6:33:07 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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Anyone else wanna weigh in on this subject?

Not until I see my therapist.

2 posted on 10/18/2005 6:36:20 PM PDT by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: MplsSteve
I agree with you 100%!

PC thought has extended to areas where the supposed victim isn't aware they are a victim until the enlightened ones point it out.

3 posted on 10/18/2005 6:37:13 PM PDT by borisbob69 (Old shade is better than new shade!)
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To: MplsSteve

The CLEVELAND MUTTLYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 10/18/2005 6:37:59 PM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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To: MplsSteve

I've also read that Indian mascots want the end of psychological groups.

Ridiculous. I have a psych degree but like most groups of elites these are just garden variety liberals trying to control everybody's lives.


5 posted on 10/18/2005 6:39:45 PM PDT by relictele (How can Hillary run the country when she couldn't manage a household of 3?)
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To: MplsSteve

This is BS and completely pisses me off.

I read a book about the process that takes place when publishers evaluate textbooks for schools and colleges. It is the most politically PC bunch of crap you ever heard of...Native American specialists are apparently the worst of the whole bunch, and they have rules about what can be said, shown in pictures etc. that would make you throw the book.

The name of the book was: The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Students Learn by Diane Ravitch


6 posted on 10/18/2005 6:39:55 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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Hmmm... these people need to get a life!

At my highschool, our mascot was an Indian. A friend of mine is native american and her dad posed for the cover of the yearbook one year wearing Indian Headdress! They even included pics of traditional indian stuff - tamahawks, dream catchers, ceremonial wear, etc. in the yearbook. It was really cool!

Of course, this was the early 90's... perhaps we weren't as progressive back then.


7 posted on 10/18/2005 6:40:38 PM PDT by California74
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I demand that the Minnesota Vikings change their name. It's killing my self-esteem.

Oh, wait... I'm proud of my viking ancestors..

Nevermind.
8 posted on 10/18/2005 6:40:45 PM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (I think, therefor I Zot!)
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These APA morons need their heads examined. Someday, it might help them to they go out and spend some time with Indians. I mean REAL Indians. Not those whiteys who claim that their grandma was a "Cherokee princess" and they are "offended" by these mascots.


9 posted on 10/18/2005 6:42:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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What about naming teams after ferocious animals? Doesn't that somehow demean the players and make them feel somehow less than caring, sensitive human beings?

Where will this bs stop?


10 posted on 10/18/2005 6:42:08 PM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: MplsSteve
Unfortunately, the American Psychological Ass, has whiteman's disease

Whiteman's disease starts with the symptom of always assuming the whiteman knows best what needs to be done. Re: Marxism, Communism and a bunch of other isms.

If a significant number of Indians think they've been dissed then something should be done. Aside from a few radical blowhards, who are the Indians standing up to complain about Indian Geographical placenames, team names and mottos ( the tomahawk chop) etc?

11 posted on 10/18/2005 6:43:17 PM PDT by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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That's exactly right. When people name things for Indians, it's usually a way to show their admiration for them. Like with our military (Apache, Black Hawk, etc.)


12 posted on 10/18/2005 6:43:53 PM PDT by JillValentine (56% of American women voted against BJ Clinton in 1992.)
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"This in turn restricts the number of ways American Indians can see themselves."

I am of the opinion that native American Indians are far stronger of mind than this moronic statement.

Talk about racism, so American Indians are so weak minded and easily manipulated that Indian name mascots make them look poorly upon themselves.

Oh, yea, sure is malarkey.

13 posted on 10/18/2005 6:44:49 PM PDT by A message ( Being a "Progressive" means never having to be truthful to yourself)
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"This in turn restricts the number of ways American Indians can see themselves."

Thanks for the post. I would like to jump in (with a belly flop). This country sees the indigenous tribes of America as pure and brave and untainted by the history of Europe.

The truth eventually comes out doesn't it.

Only the left wants to obscure the power of the truth. They want our perception of indigenous Americans to be negative...and it isn't. In many ways...when we became Americans, we became indigenous Americans...we became Indians.

And fricken proud to be one, thank you vy much.

14 posted on 10/18/2005 6:45:22 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: MplsSteve

I think the APA is suffering from limited ways to look at things.


15 posted on 10/18/2005 6:48:44 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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As an American of Irish decent, I find Notre Dame's use of the "Fighting Irish" offensive. After all, who wants to be associated with a winning tradition? (/sarcasm)
16 posted on 10/18/2005 6:51:38 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism cannot survive in a free and open society.)
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"American Indian mascots are harmful not only because they are often negative"

They are almost always positive.


17 posted on 10/18/2005 6:53:40 PM PDT by Shermy
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I demand that the Minnesota Vikings change their name. It's killing my self-esteem. Oh, wait... I'm proud of my viking ancestors.. Nevermind.

Of course, you are totally right. Thank you. But the psychologists have to justify their existence and create demand - so they tell a group of people they should be ashamed of the way others "see" them.

Is this not obvious????

18 posted on 10/18/2005 6:53:43 PM PDT by PLK
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" I mean REAL Indians"

Roger that - run with some Athabaskans in Alaska - get invited to a "sweat lodge" - seperates the "men" from the "Braves" - and they make no one "wrong" for wimping out 1/2 way thru - serious sweat and bonding. Gawd i'd love to do it again.


This other stuff is BS IMNSHO ... Roger on the Vikings as well - got some Norse in me too.


19 posted on 10/18/2005 6:54:08 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: MplsSteve

I remember last year hearing some bimbette on the radio wanting to change the UMass "Sam the Minuteman" mascot because to her, he "looked like a pirate." Sometimes democracy (where it is mandatory that the individual gets their way and everyone else can stuff it.) can be a real pain in the @$$.


20 posted on 10/18/2005 6:54:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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