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Eminent Domain in N.J. - Now They Just Steal Land
NewsMax.com Wires/Star-Ledger ^ | Monday, Oct. 17, 2005 | Star-Ledger

Posted on 10/18/2005 6:20:04 AM PDT by WmCraven_Wk

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This is EXACTLY the type of situation that the US Constitution was written to protect US citizens against. Thanks to the Supreme Court, we no longer have any protection from misuse of Eminent Domain under the Constitution.
1 posted on 10/18/2005 6:20:09 AM PDT by WmCraven_Wk
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To: WmCraven_Wk

I believe it is an historical truism that governments can be generally stable despite a wide variety of errors. BUT when the government starts taking the land that people own, then the government sows seeds of destruction.


2 posted on 10/18/2005 6:25:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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And this is exactly why eminant domain is not protected by letting "elected officials" decide if it is for a "public purpose" instead of being held to the higher standard of "public use".

Segal needs to maintain a lawsuit all the way to what hopefully will be a new Supreme Court eminant domain case.


3 posted on 10/18/2005 6:27:23 AM PDT by Wuli
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Segal needs to maintain a lawsuit all the way to what hopefully will be a new Supreme Court eminant domain case

If he does, unless he's independently wealthy, he's probably going to need help.

I wonder if he has some sort of legal fund that accepts contributions.
4 posted on 10/18/2005 6:28:41 AM PDT by babyface00
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Was that the NewsMax version labeling all the corrupt politicians Democrats? I can't believe the (Red)Star Ledger would do that!


5 posted on 10/18/2005 6:31:20 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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That is exactly why NJ is the home state of the Sopranos.


6 posted on 10/18/2005 6:35:19 AM PDT by OldFriend (Corine Lombardo ~ American Patriot)
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To: WmCraven_Wk
It happens even at much lower and more insidious levels - town after town "banned" cell phone towers, or mounts on private structures, then contracted to have them put on water towers, town buildings or town/city property, municipal radio towers etc etc. A 1-2K a month rent, the chance for a private citizen to cover property taxes, or other expenses on unused land goes right down the toilet.
7 posted on 10/18/2005 6:36:34 AM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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"Was that the NewsMax version labeling all the corrupt politicians Democrats? I can't believe the (Red)Star Ledger would do that!"

I haven't been able to trace a Star Ledger article on this yet. However, NewsMax appears to quote mostly Star Ledger references.


8 posted on 10/18/2005 6:36:43 AM PDT by WmCraven_Wk
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This sounds more like an episode of "The Sopranos" and not a real case. Ah, life imitates art...


9 posted on 10/18/2005 6:40:51 AM PDT by sammycook
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Ha! I just finished my attempt to find it at NJ.com myself.  It does follow the Star Ledger style guide so it sounds reasonable.  I even checked the Union County edition.

Curious.

Welcome to FR by the way.  You should join the NJ State bulletin board here by clicking on your name and choosing your locality.  You can edit you about page too.

10 posted on 10/18/2005 6:41:02 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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The 'peasents with pitchforks' should show up on the doorsteps of the Supreme Court someday and drag the these clowns out so they can be beaten repeatedly and vigorously about the head and shoulders with blunt objects for the this ruling.


11 posted on 10/18/2005 6:41:09 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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"They want to steal my land," Segal told the Newark Star-Ledger. "What right do they have when I intend to do the exact same thing they want to do with my property?"

The ink isn't even dry on the Kelo decision and the abuse of power has begun.

12 posted on 10/18/2005 6:41:56 AM PDT by kidd
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This is even a worse case of eminent domain abuse. Both the municipality and the owner of the land want the proerty developed in the exact same manner. The only difference is that the municipality wants a local, politically connected firm to do the work instead of letting the local owner control the development. This is local politics at its worst. I just don't see how there can be a public use excuse, even for additional taxes, being an issue since the net benefit to the municipality is the same. Unless they want to press the issue that it is of greater economic impact if the local company does the development. If that is the case, the SCOTUS ruling has now dictated that municipalities can decide WHO develops the land and can use eminent domain, not just to take property for the purpose of enhancing tax revenues, but to take property strictly for the financial benefit of the developer of their choosing. No one will ever have control of development unless they have the local governments in their back pockets. Otherwise, they lose their land.


13 posted on 10/18/2005 6:41:57 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Other references to pieces of this story.

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1128229442104780.xml&coll=1

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003670.htm

http://www.rightwingnews.com/category.php?ent=4543

http://taxbiz.blogspot.com/2005/10/kelo-and-corruption.html


14 posted on 10/18/2005 6:43:45 AM PDT by WmCraven_Wk
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neither could recall whether he expressed an opinion on the matter.

he said he may have but doesn't recall.

Shades of the beast.

16 posted on 10/18/2005 6:52:41 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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OK. So it's from Oct 2nd! I didn't go back that far!


17 posted on 10/18/2005 6:54:41 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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Welcome to Soviet Socialist Sates of Amerika! Yep, take the property from the rich, tax them out of business, brainwash them with lies, kick the God out of their lives, nationalize the healthcare - red RATs "paradise" is coming.

This case should be blown up to show how corrupted democrats are.

Vote the bastRATs and Corzine out to oblivion. Time to turn NJ PUBs!
18 posted on 10/18/2005 6:59:00 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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Vote the bastRATs and Corzine out to oblivion. Time to turn NJ PUBs!

Yes, because the hue and cry from the Republicans has been so strong. They have been right out front in fighting this. Oh,,,,never mind.

19 posted on 10/18/2005 7:02:08 AM PDT by Protagoras (The "Patriot Act" ain't about patriotism)
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>>>The 'peasents with pitchforks' should show up on the doorsteps of the Supreme Court someday and drag the these clowns out so they can be beaten repeatedly and vigorously about the head and shoulders with blunt objects for the this ruling.<<<

Long overdue.


20 posted on 10/18/2005 7:05:28 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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