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I mention all this only because the circumstances in Iraq are clearly advancing in a positive way, and yet the Democrats and their willing accomplices in the mainstream press are doing everything possible to make as many people as possible think that it's leading to failure, to calamity, more death, more terrorism, more destruction. The exact thing -- that exact thing -- would be the result of Democrats succeeding with their foreign policy on the war on terror.

The left seems to think that Iraq is like Vietnam, what they fail to recognize is that after we abandoned the Vietnamese, the Viet Cong didn't have any intention of coming to the United States to kill us.

1 posted on 10/17/2005 5:11:29 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

I seriously believe that everytime a troop is brutally murdered, a 2008 democratic anti-war candidate smiles


2 posted on 10/17/2005 5:15:08 PM PDT by CarlEOlsoniii (If one young republican reads my posts and knows he is not alone, I have done my job)
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To: wagglebee; Congressman Billybob

http://newsbusters.org/node/2144

Media Forget History of American Constitution When Reporting on Iraq's
Posted by John Armor on October 12, 2005 - 14:26.


3 posted on 10/17/2005 5:26:07 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: wagglebee

And... after we left Vietnam, Polpot when on a killing spree in Cambodia, killing millions. Same thing will probably happen there if we leave too early.


4 posted on 10/17/2005 5:29:31 PM PDT by westmichman (I vote Republican for the children and the poor!)
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Those of us who have lived through the VietNam era remember all to well the hatchet job done by the media and the anti-American movements. They convinced America, based on the false testimony of those like John Kerry, "Hanoi" Jane and a willing Congress, etc. to abandon VietNam and the US military. Too many of us are still around and that wound will never be healed.


5 posted on 10/17/2005 5:29:50 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: wagglebee
What does defeat mean to them?

It means the same thing that the Vietnam war did - that the U.S. must never be allowed to take an action, especially not a military action, that is not approved in advance by internationalists and in the interest of the advancement of internationalism and the detriment of nationalism. That internationalism was identified with world socialism for a very long time and still carries that cachet.

What that implies in practical terms is that a U.S. failure in any policy represents a step toward an idealized future, the exact mechanism of which is theoretical and murky but believed in with all the fervor of a religious fanatic. The left has lost its collective vision of where it is going; all that remains is a certainty that where it is must be wrong.

7 posted on 10/17/2005 5:35:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: wagglebee

Dittos Rush


8 posted on 10/17/2005 5:38:14 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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They sure are invested in an American defeat. They've opposed this thing from the start. A defeat would allow them to say, "We told you so." Big boost for the Left's belief in it's own infallibility.

We shouldn't allow the Left to get away with lying about the situation in Iraq.


9 posted on 10/17/2005 5:41:19 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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I believe that most citizens in this country would be supporting this war almost 100% were it not for the lies and propaganda of the left supplied to us by their lap dog media.


12 posted on 10/17/2005 5:44:24 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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I usually explain it this way: The left thinks we can afford to lose this, I don't.


13 posted on 10/17/2005 5:47:19 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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19 posted on 10/17/2005 6:20:49 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: wagglebee

Good post!


20 posted on 10/17/2005 6:24:59 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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We all want the troops out now. It is just the matter of who wants to see them have the chance to complete the job. I, for one, want to see them get the job done and come home soon.

I sometimes question if the left wants an American loss over an American win.......


25 posted on 10/17/2005 7:22:34 PM PDT by nascaryankee (Peace Through Superior Firepower)
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Liberals = Twilight Zone denizens

(Denny Crane: "I like nature. Don't talk to me about the environment".)
29 posted on 10/17/2005 9:43:39 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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The Viet Cong and Vietnamese wanted to reunify their country. Al Qaeda is determined to kill us and impose Sharia on the entire world. The other side doesn't seem to grasp the difference between the two adversaries and that's where they're blind as bats. A defeat for the United States in the Middle East would mark the beginning of the end of our free way of life - and our existence as a Nation. No, Iraq is not Vietnam Redux.

(Denny Crane: "I like nature. Don't talk to me about the environment".)
30 posted on 10/17/2005 9:47:04 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: wagglebee
The left seems to think that Iraq is like Vietnam, what they fail to recognize is that after we abandoned the Vietnamese, the Viet Cong didn't have any intention of coming to the United States to kill us.

Actually, after we left, it didn't matter what their intentions were -- they had very little capability left. We gutted them, killed a generation of their most committed cadres. They couldn't even take over Cambodia after we finished with them, much less Bangkok and Singapore.

And they couldn't even begin to think about joining a great Communist crusade to follow us home and clean us out.

These other guys are another matter. Different contest -- it's barely 1952, in terms of the Indochinese War.

33 posted on 10/18/2005 6:07:56 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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