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Open Secrets.org: Tom DeLay's Judge Donated To Moveon.org, Other Leftwingnuts
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Posted on 10/17/2005 2:12:47 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

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To: Certain_Doom

no kidding. it'd be like trying to get a fair trial for some Shiite accused in Sunni Ramadi. Austin and Sugarland could not be more polar opposite. the fact that someone from "enemy territory" can extradite people like this should be cause for alarm for people outside the long liberal arm of Austin. Because they may not, in fact, be immune.

I guess at the end of the day the liberals feel kind of like, scr3w it, DeLay overplayed his re-districting hand and broke the omerta code amongst politicians, so why should they feel restrained from acting unethically in order to get even.


141 posted on 10/18/2005 12:14:19 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: rocklobster11
Actually, it looks like they do have grounds for change of venue, as the Election code states that the jurisdiction for election code violations is the candidates home district. here's part of Dick DeGuerin's filing to have it quashed:

Yeah, but that is the reason Earle filed conspiracy charges against DeLay, using an uncommon law, in the first indictment. It gets around the Ft. Bend County legal venue issue. Earle's conspiracy indictment is BS, but that is why he did it.

FYI, on the second indictment of criminal money laundering, Earle has to prove criminal intent and the money came from criminal enterprise activity. Again, BS.

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142 posted on 10/18/2005 12:20:18 PM PDT by flattorney
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To: olde north church

zero...but I can't do it alone.


143 posted on 10/18/2005 1:54:51 PM PDT by soycd
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To: flattorney

"...Also, you don’t win legal cases pissing off a Judge over $200 bucks."

Good point. He has to be able to continue to argue cases before this judge for other clients. As much as I don't like it, I understand.


144 posted on 10/18/2005 2:13:10 PM PDT by Purrcival (Hang tough, FReepers! Everything will work out just fine.)
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To: AFPhys

---"LOL... President Bush nominates to the USSC a person who may be the most conservative and constructionist justice ever and you're left numb?... LOL... what a great soldier for the cause you are."---

LOL is right. The most Conservative judge ever?

This soldier has walked the walk, buddy. That insult won't ever fly with me - I work hard to help.

Now for the good news. Today's questionaire shines Miers in a more positive light; but the "most Conservative judge ever" would not openly support Affirmative Action. She was a big part of watering down White House opposition to the Michigan Affirmative Action case; she was and is of the position that the Supreme Court should uphold Affirmative Action.

That being said, today's new info has me a lot less hostile and a lot more curious. This is perhaps the first rallying point I've found for Miers, thanks to a bumbling and stumbling White House up until now on the issue.

For the first time we have solid information that she is Pro-Life. Not conjecture and second-hand references, but words from her own mouth and written by her own hand. That, combined with a satisfactory explanation of the role of the Judiciary on social issues, and a public statement that she would favor outlawing abortion except for life and death situations (1989), is a very big step in the right direction.

I am now 95%+ sure she is currently Pro-Life,
75% sure she'd vote to overturn Roe v. God,
and 90%+ sure she'd uphold Affirmative Action.

That being said, a Stevens or Ginsberg retirement could remedy Affirmative Action by reversing a 5-4 decision if Bush appoints a true Conservative to replace either of them. Miers may well be a step in the right direction on Roe, but we still need a Stevens or Ginsberg retirement to remedy that activism. That being said, it looks like Miers might be a small noodge to the right for the Supreme Court, which would make her acceptable, though still not anywhere near what we could have had.

For the first time, I have moved from the "stop Miers now" camp to the "let's hear more" camp. I still think we could do better; but making a gain, at least on Roe, would turn out to be a net positive for the Conservative movement.

Unlike National Review, et al, I would be satisfied with a solid Conservative vote for 15 years. I don't need a movement Conservative to replace a swing vote; I need that movement Conservative when the overall direction of the Court changes, which would be with one of the next retirements of a liberal justice.

That being said, I am holding my breath and listening right now. The leaks about the secret meeting are very interesting; it is beginning to look more and more like a White House arranged leak that is untraceable. Smart move, if true.

We'll see......we'll see.......


145 posted on 10/18/2005 2:24:46 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("It would be a hard government that should tax its people 1/10th part of their income."-Ben Franklin)
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To: p23185
Have you listened to Err America lately?

I've never listened to them, why bother, I don't even think they're on in Los Angeles.

146 posted on 10/19/2005 9:06:29 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Conservatives don't want judicial "litmus tests", unless THEY supply the test that is))
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To: holdonnow

see this thread and post #11


147 posted on 10/19/2005 10:25:48 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
If for no other reason than one such as this.
We should not waver as a team even if we do not agree with some of the actions of the Republicans in charge.
I put my trust in the president when I voted for him and if he wants to spend 250 billion dollars on hurricane relief or nominate his private lawyer to the most powerful bench in the nation I'll take it as strategy and believe we will be better off in the long run.
For this will be the alternative if we fall apart.
148 posted on 10/19/2005 11:15:59 AM PDT by cjmae
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To: Howlin; Mo1; Petronski; Quilla; nopardons; beyond the sea; onyx; Txsleuth; kcvl; txgirl4Bush; ...

Ping. This should shock nobody.


149 posted on 10/19/2005 1:05:31 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: rface
This is a big deal! Delay has to find out about this!
Agree.

DeGuerin has to prove the connection of moveon.org's motivation and the judge's support of moveon.org through his admittedly cheap donations. Who knows...maybe he has supported the move to oust DeLay in other matters.

At any rate, it should be pretty easy for a DeGuerin Clerk to show cause for the judge to recuse himself on prejudicial grounds.
150 posted on 10/19/2005 1:25:40 PM PDT by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....)
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To: rface
Topped out the “Fire Tom DeLay” petition at more than 480,334 signers

Wonder what the chances are that this judge is one of the signers?

151 posted on 10/19/2005 1:32:16 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: holdonnow

*ping*


152 posted on 10/19/2005 1:37:28 PM PDT by cgk (Because destiny put you in this place in history, in this moment in time & the task is yours to do.)
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To: Ditto

I'd like to know how to look at the petition signers ---- but I cannot figure out how to do that.


153 posted on 10/19/2005 1:50:16 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: rvoitier
What crime?

Being a republican.

154 posted on 10/19/2005 2:02:48 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

BTTT...


155 posted on 10/19/2005 2:21:43 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: Labyrinthos
So none of the clients you defended were innocent? WOW

"All of the criminal defendants that I have represented in the twenty plus years that that I have practiced law claim that the charges are trumped up and that the cops/prosecutor is out to get them. They all think that the charges should be dropped and they all claim they are innocent."

156 posted on 10/19/2005 5:30:57 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Ditto; Howlin; Buckhead; Mo1; Txsleuth; kcvl; onyx; Redbob; cyncooper; Petronski; beyond the sea; ..

Does not matter if he signed it or not. THE JUDGE GAVE MONEY TO MOVEON.ORG! MOVEON.ORG RAN ADS AGAINST DELAY.

THE JUDGE MUST GIVE THE CASE TO ANOTHER JUDGE!!

FURTHER MORE...and I am checking this on Thursday.....
I sat in on a lecture recently...by two judges...who are the judges that judges have to go before when they get in trouble in the State of Texas.

One of the rules they mentioned sounded like it is against the judicial cannon of ethics for a Judge to give to a PAC.


157 posted on 10/19/2005 6:38:39 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: ArmyBratproud

Doesn't "shock" me at all, but it is VERY interesting.


158 posted on 10/19/2005 7:27:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ArmyBratproud

Great info!


159 posted on 10/19/2005 7:40:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: COEXERJ145

I also didn't mean to insult all liberal arts majors. I respect history majors, political science majors, and others. The BS majors I was thinking of were things like Women's Studies, various ethnic studies, sociology, etc.


160 posted on 10/19/2005 8:49:48 PM PDT by LonghornFreeper
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