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1 posted on 10/17/2005 9:44:47 AM PDT by Crackingham
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A nation without borders is not a nation at all.


2 posted on 10/17/2005 9:48:44 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ( Welcome to the Canexican Community!)
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Nice round-up of libertarian/wage-depression platitudes. Thanks!


3 posted on 10/17/2005 9:50:40 AM PDT by Shermy
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Self-appointed, vigilante immigration restrictionist Jim Gilchrist received a sizable 14.4 percent of the vote for Congress on a single-issue, immigrant bashing platform.

That would be ILLEGAL immgrant bashing. No agenda here.

4 posted on 10/17/2005 9:51:08 AM PDT by agere_contra
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I can tell you from discussions on other boards with supposedly educated people that they IMMEDIATELY jump to use "nativist" and "KKK" in any discussion of secure borders.

I'm a total free trader, but even Adam Smith believed in secure borders and national defense.

5 posted on 10/17/2005 9:52:07 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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in this program would be a route to earned legalization

"Earned legalization"...a specious new concept, in which the longer one breaks the law, the quicker the violation is amnestied away.

6 posted on 10/17/2005 9:52:23 AM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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If folks like this author, Ted Kennedy, and George Bush continue to get their way, our grandchildren will all be attending mosque in Spanish.
7 posted on 10/17/2005 9:54:26 AM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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The results of the recent special election in California's 48th Congressional District are a sober wakeup call to economic conservatives who believe in the free movement of goods, capital and LABOR.

Calling all FROBLS! Here's your man, a proud exponent of wide open borders.

National sovereignty, Ptuey! Who needs that? Borders are for "nation-states," an obsolete construct!

8 posted on 10/17/2005 9:56:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


10 posted on 10/17/2005 9:57:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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It's a sad day when the SDU-T agrees with a 'conservative' president on immigration reform. A clear indication that Bush is on the wrong side of the illegal immigration issue.

Illegal immigration is a catastrophy of enormous proportions, Bush and the liberal media propose to make the problem worse.


11 posted on 10/17/2005 9:57:55 AM PDT by wvobiwan (Liberal Slogan: "News maganizes don't kill people, Muslims do." - Ann Coulter)
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Another immigration screed that deliberately ignores the distinction between legal and illegal. Deserves absolutely no further consideration.
12 posted on 10/17/2005 9:59:08 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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Immigration is a moral imperative and an economic necessity

No it isn't. In this century, it's largely freeloading by people who decided that it was easier than changing the hellholes they were "arbitrarily born in".

and it is wrong to limit an individual's freedom to pursue his or her interests based on it, particularly in a country whose civic identity is based on providing opportunities to people from around the world

No it isn't. Preventing billions of people from around the planet showing up and voting to confiscate your property from you or demanding special treatment for themselves based on their ethnicity is the right of any free people, who view themselves as united.

The economic benefits of free movement of people, like the benefits of free trade and capital flows, are clear. Each immigrant who comes to the United States expands national output more than he or she personally consumes, which benefits everyone

Triumphalist bunk. The millions of illiterate, violent, and irredentist Mexican illegal aliens who have invaded California are almost singularly responsible for the massive spending and accompanying deficits, the degradation of civic life in this state, and every credible national study has shown that mass immigration legal or illegal is a net cost, not a net benefit.

and explain to the American public that the correct conservative, free-market position is pro-immigration

How charming. The Leftist reveals himself: the "correct" position is this, he demands. Oh. Got it. There's a party line, and you got to toe it.

Nothing like a Trotskyite calling himself a "conservative" to show you what table pounding conformity is really about.

13 posted on 10/17/2005 10:01:17 AM PDT by Regulator
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Totally illogical crap from a liberal theocrat. We succeed in spite of open borders because I cannot for the life of me think why importing the third world into our country and increasing our "diversity" improves upon the basic wealth. If that were the case China would be missing out and instead be regressing, and Japan would be importing everything and its economy collapsing.


14 posted on 10/17/2005 10:01:34 AM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid!)
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Jim Gilchrist received a sizable 14.4 percent of the vote for Congress on a single-issue, immigrant bashing platform. Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo, who endorsed Gilchrist, is trying, with some success, to raise immigrant-bashing to a top-tier issue in the 2008 elections.




Immigrant Bashing?

How about secure borders candidate?

Who writes this drivel? An Illegal Alien?


17 posted on 10/17/2005 10:09:28 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (How does He know what you're gonna do? He had a great view from YOUR cross.)
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Remember: you're a nativist and a racist if you object to paying $40,000 per person per year for illegal immigrants. You should be happy to pay $40,000 for each - it's one of the benefits of diversity.


18 posted on 10/17/2005 10:09:59 AM PDT by henderson field
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Is Kerpen running for the Quisling presidency?


19 posted on 10/17/2005 10:11:01 AM PDT by Pelham
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Why doesn't this Mr. Kerpen start his program with countries other than America?

Then I could go down to Mazatlan and buy a nice seaside house and not have to worry about property rights or visas. Or Thailand. Or anywhere on the South China Sea for that matter.

The open-borders harpies care only about the American border being open, and not any other country. They never seem to mention that not one single nation on planet Earth willingly allows open borders.


23 posted on 10/17/2005 10:19:39 AM PDT by angkor
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Gilchrist received a sizable 14.4 percent of the vote for Congress on a single-issue, immigrant bashing platform. Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo, who endorsed Gilchrist, is trying, with some success, to raise immigrant-bashing to a top-tier issue in the 2008 elections.

Anti-immigration sentiment...

An illegal alien is not an immigrant. The author of this article can go fly a kite.

24 posted on 10/17/2005 10:20:45 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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it is wrong to limit an individual's freedom to pursue his or her interests based on it, particularly in a country whose civic identity is based on providing opportunities to people from around the world.

That's all I needed to read. They advocate an open border and are, in my opinion, an enemy of the state.
26 posted on 10/17/2005 10:25:21 AM PDT by steel_resolve
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It is very simple: Mexico is a hellhole because it is populated with and run by Mexicans.

The oligarchy in Mexico with the eager help of the right and left in this country want to export to the US the problems caused by the (growing) poverty stricken population of their country.

And these "poor peons" know exactly that they are doing to our country; they just want to make a few bucks and get back to Mexico making a toxic trash heap of our country - nobody cares, right, as long as lettuce is cheap and little Juanita is such a good and cheap nanny.

If this makes me a nativist and someone you oh so good and oh so kind conservatives don't want to invite for tea and crumpets, then you know what - shove it up your a$$.
27 posted on 10/17/2005 10:31:26 AM PDT by RATkiller (I'm not communist, socialist, Democrat nor Republican so don't call me names)
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I'm not anti-immigration but I am pro-assimilation. That means that I'm anti-ILLEGAL immigration and pro-controlled immigration.
28 posted on 10/17/2005 10:33:49 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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