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Prof Speaks at 'Intelligent Design' Trial
AP - Science ^ | 2005-10-17 | MARTHA RAFFAELE

Posted on 10/17/2005 8:46:30 AM PDT by Junior

HARRISBURG, Pa. - Evolutionary theory should be taught to science students, but it alone cannot explain complex biological phenomenon, said a biochemistry professor who is a leading advocate of "intelligent design."

Lehigh University Professor Michael Behe was the first witness called by a school board that is requiring students to hear a statement about the intelligent design concept in biology class. Lawyers for the Dover Area School Board began presenting their case Monday in the landmark federal trial, which could decide whether it can be mentioned in public school science classes as an alternative to the theory of evolution.

Behe, whose work includes a 1996 best-seller called "Darwin's Black Box," said students should be taught evolution because it's widely used in science and that "any well-educated student should understand it."

Behe, however, argues that evolution cannot fully explain the biological complexities of life, suggesting the work of an intelligent force.

The school board is defending its decision a year ago to require students to hear a statement on intelligent design before ninth-grade biology lessons on evolution. The statement says Charles Darwin's theory is "not a fact," has inexplicable "gaps," and refers students to a textbook, "Of Pandas and People," for more information.

Behe contributed to the 1993 edition of "Of Pandas and People," writing a section about blood-clotting. He told a federal judge Monday that in the book, he made a scientific argument that blood-clotting "is poorly explained by Darwinian processes but well explained by design."

Eight families sued to have intelligent design removed from the biology curriculum, contending the policy essentially promotes the Bible's view of creation and therefore violates the constitutional separation of church and state.

Mainstream scientists have rejected intelligent design as scientifically untested and contend that its supporters focus on attacking evolutionary theory rather than providing evidence for design.

Lehigh's biology department sought to distance itself from Behe in August, posting a statement on its Web site that says the faculty "are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary theory." He earned tenure at Lehigh before becoming a proponent, which lets him express his views without the threat of losing his job.

The trial began Sept. 26 and is expected to last up to five weeks.

The plaintiffs are represented by a team put together by the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for Separation of Church and State. The school district is being represented by the Thomas More Law Center, a public-interest law firm based in Ann Arbor, Mich., that says its mission is to defend the religious freedom of Christians.


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1 posted on 10/17/2005 8:46:32 AM PDT by Junior
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  3. 2005-10-16 An Open Letter Concerning Religion and Science
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  9. 2005-10-16 Pa. professor [Behe] to testify in landmark case [Dover evolution trial, 16 Oct]
  10. 2005-10-16 The Separation of the Church of Darwin and State
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2 posted on 10/17/2005 8:52:47 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Junior

So nice, I said it twice.


4 posted on 10/17/2005 8:53:43 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: PatrickHenry

This came in less than half an hour ago.


5 posted on 10/17/2005 8:57:04 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Junior

Any specific news on his testimony and cross examination yet?


6 posted on 10/17/2005 9:12:09 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Junior

Has Behe soiled himself yet?


7 posted on 10/17/2005 9:27:10 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: balrog666

"Has Behe soiled himself yet?"

You'll never know. I heard someone saw him leaving a Walgreens with a box of heavy duty Depends.

Now, that could be a false report, but someone forwarded it to me in email, so it's probably true. </sarcasm>


8 posted on 10/17/2005 9:38:55 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
Let's not forget that the ACLU lost in the "monkey trial". Real scientist allowed Darwin's folly to be taught as a legitimate theory. Now this hoax is being challenged and the ACLU is on the receiving end. It appears that the shoe is on the other foot.
9 posted on 10/17/2005 10:17:29 AM PDT by Dr. I. C. Spots
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To: Dr. I. C. Spots
Now this hoax

Obviously, you haven't been keeping up with the Creationist dispatches. The TOE graduated from "hoax" to "vast conspiracy" months ago.

10 posted on 10/17/2005 10:20:38 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Junior
Evolutionary theory should be taught to science students, but it alone cannot explain complex biological phenomenon, said a biochemistry professor who is a leading advocate of "intelligent design."

This is so cool. First Marx, then Freud, now this. Kinsey's next on the list.

11 posted on 10/17/2005 10:22:54 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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12 posted on 10/17/2005 10:24:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (No response to trolls, retards, or lunatics.)
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13 posted on 10/17/2005 10:28:06 AM PDT by GallopingGhost
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To: Junior

Science has been off the leash long enough. time to rein it in and show it the instruments.


14 posted on 10/17/2005 10:35:24 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138
Science has been off the leash long enough. time to rein it in and show it the instruments.

Way over most creationist heads placemarker.

15 posted on 10/17/2005 10:41:32 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: js1138
Science has been off the leash long enough. time to rein it in and show it the instruments.

He earned tenure at Lehigh before becoming a proponent, which lets him express his views without the threat of losing his job.

If you say so.

16 posted on 10/17/2005 10:42:06 AM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: Junior

I hope they call that Moonie freak "Dr Jonathan Wells" to the stand... that would be even better for a laugh than Behe, whose own department repudiates him.


17 posted on 10/17/2005 10:42:36 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Dover Area School District
18 posted on 10/17/2005 10:42:47 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: AndrewC
He earned tenure at Lehigh before becoming a proponent, which lets him express his views without the threat of losing his job.

Creationist moral courage.

19 posted on 10/17/2005 10:45:30 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Junior
Behe contributed to the 1993 edition of "Of Pandas and People," writing a section about blood-clotting. He told a federal judge Monday that in the book, he made a scientific argument that blood-clotting "is poorly explained by Darwinian processes but well explained by design."

Can somebody tell me something that isn't "well explained by design"?
20 posted on 10/17/2005 10:46:11 AM PDT by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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