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1 posted on 10/17/2005 8:46:32 AM PDT by Junior
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2 posted on 10/17/2005 8:52:47 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: PatrickHenry

This came in less than half an hour ago.


5 posted on 10/17/2005 8:57:04 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Junior

Has Behe soiled himself yet?


7 posted on 10/17/2005 9:27:10 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Junior
Evolutionary theory should be taught to science students, but it alone cannot explain complex biological phenomenon, said a biochemistry professor who is a leading advocate of "intelligent design."

This is so cool. First Marx, then Freud, now this. Kinsey's next on the list.

11 posted on 10/17/2005 10:22:54 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: self

When I have a couple of hours to kill bookmark.


13 posted on 10/17/2005 10:28:06 AM PDT by GallopingGhost
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To: Junior

I hope they call that Moonie freak "Dr Jonathan Wells" to the stand... that would be even better for a laugh than Behe, whose own department repudiates him.


17 posted on 10/17/2005 10:42:36 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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Behe contributed to the 1993 edition of "Of Pandas and People," writing a section about blood-clotting. He told a federal judge Monday that in the book, he made a scientific argument that blood-clotting "is poorly explained by Darwinian processes but well explained by design."

Can somebody tell me something that isn't "well explained by design"?
20 posted on 10/17/2005 10:46:11 AM PDT by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: Junior
He told a federal judge Monday that in the book, he made a scientific argument that blood-clotting "is poorly explained by Darwinian processes but well explained by design."

I truly believe Behe has lost his mind.

30 posted on 10/17/2005 10:56:25 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: Junior
He told a federal judge Monday that in the book, he made a scientific argument that blood-clotting "is poorly explained by Darwinian processes but well explained by design."

So, Darwinian process made the heart but it's the Flying Spaghetti Monster who causes the blood to clot? Is that what these wackos want to insert into biology class?

43 posted on 10/17/2005 11:15:04 AM PDT by shuckmaster (Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
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Behe, however, argues that evolution cannot fully explain the biological complexities of life, suggesting the work of an intelligent force.

"Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny."

46 posted on 10/17/2005 11:20:13 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Junior
Behe contributed to the 1993 edition of "Of Pandas and People," writing a section about blood-clotting. He told a federal judge Monday that in the book, he made a scientific argument that blood-clotting "is poorly explained by Darwinian processes but well explained by design."

It seems to me that Behe is correct in stating thate the Darwinian process connot explain the clotting of blood.

If not the product of ID, how does one explain how an organism could survive any cut or injury if it took thousands to millions of years for such a process to evolve?

If blood clotting was not designed and present at the outset, there would be no animals alive that require blood clotting in order to survive cuts or other injuries.

67 posted on 10/17/2005 11:51:13 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Junior

Why Intelligent Design Is Going to Win By Douglas Kern
http://www.techcentralstation.com/100705C.html

It doesn't matter if you like it or not. It doesn't matter if you think it's true or not. Intelligent Design theory is destined to supplant Darwinism as the primary scientific explanation for the origin of human life. ID will be taught in public schools as a matter of course. It will happen in our lifetime. It's happening right now, actually.

Here's why:
{snip]

2) ID will win because the pro-Darwin crowd is acting like a bunch of losers.

"Ewww…intelligent design people! They're just buck-toothed Bible-pushing nincompoops with community-college degrees who're trying to sell a gussied-up creationism to a cretinous public! No need to address their concerns or respond to their arguments. They are Not Science. They are poopy-heads."

There. I just saved you the trouble of reading 90% of the responses to the ID position. Vitriol, condescension, and endless accusations of bad faith all characterize far too much of the standard pro-Darwinian response to criticism. A reasonable observer might note that many ID advocates appear exceptionally well-educated, reasonable, and articulate; they might also note that ID advocates have pointed out many problems with the Darwinist catechism that even pro-Darwin scientists have been known to concede, when they think the Jesus-kissing crowd isn't listening. And yet, even in the face of a sober, thoughtful ID position, the pro-Darwin crowd insists on the same phooey-to-the-boobgeois shtick that was tiresome in Mencken's day. This is how losers act just before they lose: arrogant, self-satisfied, too important to be bothered with substantive refutation, and disdainful of their own faults. Pride goeth before a fall.

[snip]


99 posted on 10/17/2005 2:06:16 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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