Like white on Rice

WND ^ | October 17, 2005 | Doug Powers

[Clock King]

You're never going to find the "perfect" person, doesn't exist on this earth. Second, there is a real fear of Hillary. If Hillary runs, there will be a very STRONG push to "make history" by electing a woman, and we have to face facts: a large portion of the electorate vote with their feeling and not with logic. They will want to "make history" just to do it regardless if the choice is bad. If Hillary run, the entire MSM will be behind her, and the Republicans can not afford to look like the party of rich white men.

[ichabod1]

I agree. The more I know about her tenure as NSA, and the more I see of her as SoS, esp. vis-a-vis Israel, the less I want to see her do anything else. Besides, she doesn't speak all that well, she's never run for a public office, and I don't think she likes pressing the flesh and kissing babies.

[ichabod1]

I agree. The more I know about her tenure as NSA, and the more I see of her as SoS, esp. vis-a-vis Israel, the less I want to see her do anything else. Besides, she doesn't speak all that well, she's never run for a public office, and I don't think she likes pressing the flesh and kissing babies.

[Senator Goldwater]

Rice is certainly an admirable figure, but the 2008 GOP nominee will likely be Giuliani.]

And he'll bury Hillary and anyone else that gets in his way.

[Iscool]

There is no reason to believe she will run.

Doesn't matter to me one way or the other...She will not get my vote under any circumstances...

[oldbrowser]

So, to put your curious answer into other words: Condi is a good candidate because: Hillary reeeeeks.

Condi is a good candidate because she can defeat Hillary. Minorities and women are the two main pillars of the democratic party and Condi figures to make inroads in both of those areas.

[bIlluminati]

IMHO, Condi Rice has no chance of being nominated. In 2008 in the Republican primaries, being a woman is a push, being black is probably (at most) two points plus or minus, but being a Bush-type Republican will cost her twenty. Examples:

What's her stand on abortion? On taxes? Campaign finance? Kelo? What sort of judges will she name?

Oh, plus she's unmarried. If the Republicans want to win in 2008, especially against Hitlery!, a married candidate is probably worth 3-5 points. If she had been a governor, or even headed a Senate committee (especially Judiciary, but there are others) and shown her beliefs, then yes.

If Rice has ambitions beyond State, she should run for Governor or Senate in 2006 (assuming the seat is open). Track record and timing.

Clinton was being groomed for President in 1976. These things take time, money, and organization. George H. W. Bush could give George W. Bush significant help. W. will not be able to help at the same level.

This is not the Supreme Court. Many extremely talented politicians could not begin to compete at the Presidential level. Example: Schwarzenegger easily won in California, but even if he were eligible, would find it a challenge. And I think that Schwarzenegger, if eligible and interested, would smash almost any career politician. Schwarzenegger at State, though ...

Any Republican candidate needs both money and people on the ground. Check Free Republic, eagleforum, and similar sites (are there many)

[karnage]

One thing I love about Condi is that she is a Second Amendment "absolutist" (her word). For those of us who love the Bill of Rights and lament its eclipse in recent decades, this is sweet music indeed.

[Surtur]

quote "Gore, after suffering heartbreak in 2000, morphed into Sebastian Cabot's body double and gave speeches that would have even had Nikita Khrushchev telling him to "bring it down it a little." /quote

Who are Sebastian Cabot and Nikita Khrushchev? I know, but I'll wager that there are many under 40 who have never heard of them. Doug Powers needs to use more current and relevant references even if he is addressing stodgy old republicans.

[Fred Hayek]

Her "mildly pro-choice" could amount to overturning Roe v. Wade and gong back to states' rights.

[Fred Hayek]

"And he'll bury Hillary and anyone else that gets in his way."

I may bash New York, but I would rather see a real New Yorker (Guiliani) than the Carpetbagger. I think what makes doing business in New York bad is the outsiders who moved in and trying to kick up dust to "prove themselves". Of course I have other problems w/ Guiliani (abortion, gun control).

[Bones75]

I'm in favor of Condi running just because of the utter and complete devastation it would wreak upon the democratic party and Hitlery's cnadidacy specifically. Even if she were not the most perfect candidate (as if anyone is at this point) the damage it would do to the left would do so much to help this country move forward. I hate to think politically like that, but it is what it is. Demoralizing the tyrranical left will help to remove that obstacle to liberty.

[DougPowers]

Doug Powers needs to use more current and relevant references even if he is addressing stodgy old republicans.

Well, I am under 40, so I guess it didn't occur to me... let's see... I guess a modern-day equivalent to use as a comparison for Khrushchev's speeches would be... Al Gore? That's tough to make work, though. Hey, at least you got it... besides, jokes that everybody gets are no fun, eh?

[Surtur]

You are of a rare breed Doug Powers. Most people, especially those under 50 or so, have no more respect or appreciation for history than they do for their last meal break. That you can casually mention the two you did tells me much about your political and historical awareness. And, you are right about people "getting" jokes, if everyone got them, who would the enlightened ones get to tease?

[Kuehn12]

We have no idea for sure that Hillary is running, but we have emphatic "No" for Miss Rice on many of the Sunday shows. Many in this country aren't ready for a woman president let alone a black women. I am sorry it is tough to judge how far America has gone as whether a women would be acceptable Commander-in-Chief. I think the judgment is out. I know the questions on most men's minds as well as some women. Would a woman sends troops into harms way? Would a woman support more welfare programs than a man? How aggressive would she be in advance her parties positions? There is also the issue on how Americans see women in a general. Can American men stand to have a woman lead their nation? These an many more questions go to the heart of how we see each other on numerous levels such as race, sex, religion. A woman in the white house would be the final form of acceptance of a pluralistic society where every boy and girls of every strip can dream of being the President of the United States.

[Senator Goldwater]

I also have problems with Rudy's abortion and gun stances, but I suspect the high court will be in pretty good shape come 08 and anybody he appoints will be of the law and order variety.

I recommend "Prince of the City" by Fred Seigel for anyone who is shying away from a Rudy candidacy. He's really quite something and he can lead my party anytime.