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OU student left suicide message
The Oklahoman ^ | Sun October 16, 2005 | Nolan Clay

Posted on 10/16/2005 11:02:43 AM PDT by MizSterious

Sun October 16, 2005
OU student left suicide message

By Nolan Clay
The Oklahoman

NORMAN - The University of Oklahoma student who died in an explosion Oct. 1 left a message on his computer that he was going to quit living, his father said.

The FBI read the message to the father Friday, after he came to Oklahoma to clear out his son's university-owned apartment.

Joel "Joe" Henry Hinrichs III, an engineering student, died when his bomb went off about 100 yards from the packed football stadium during the second quarter of OU's night game against Kansas State.

Hinrichs, 21, was from Colorado Springs, Colo. He had a reputation as a loner and had struggled at times with his grades. His parents had begun divorce proceedings.

Joel Hinrichs Jr. said he understood investigators found the message on the computer screen when they arrived at the apartment.

"It was a single line of text on his computer," said the father, who lives in Colorado Springs. "The cursor was still blinking at the end."

The father said he could not recall the exact wording but said his son used profanity in the message and was obviously very angry. "He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living," the father said.

His description of the message is consistent with the recollection of others who have been briefed about the investigation by the FBI.

No links to terrorist groups

FBI officials have said they may never know whether the student wanted to get inside the stadium. The student did not have a season ticket.

FBI officials also have said the investigation has not found any links between the student and terrorist organizations.

His father said he thinks his son was just committing suicide and never intended to hurt anyone else.

The father said the FBI on Friday showed him the fractured bench where his son was sitting when the bomb exploded and photos of his son's headless body and a tattered backpack.

The father said when cleaning out the apartment, he learned his son apparently had been having trouble sleeping and had bought Sominex, a sleep aid.

The younger Hinrichs had a long fascination with ammunition and bombs, his relatives and friends said. Inside his bedroom in Norman were several used metal artillery shells -- the largest about 2 feet long. He had belts of used brass shell casings, a box of spent bullets and military ammo containers.

He also had items more typical of many college students -- textbooks, empty liquor bottles, magazines and a martial arts movie videotape.

The father allowed two reporters from The Oklahoman into the bedroom briefly Thursday.

Bomb experts removed explosive-related materials from the apartment Oct. 2. Contributing: Randy Ellis


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: batf; bomb; cia; fakesuicidenote; fbi; hinrichs; homelandsecurity; normanbombing; normanbomer; ou; oubomber; oubombing; waronterror
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To: MizSterious
Bomb experts removed explosive-related materials from the apartment Oct. 2. Contributing: Randy Ellis

Hey Wally! Gee why do you have explosives under your bed?

Ahh, knock it off Beav and mind your own business!

Gee Wally I hope you don't hurt yourself with those explosives.

Beav, knock it off and just go to sleep.

You worry too much.

161 posted on 10/16/2005 3:14:23 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: juntos

I live in the area where it happened. I was talking about the local newscasts, which aired at 10 pm that night.


162 posted on 10/16/2005 3:18:07 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious
OU student left suicide message

I'm not buying it.

163 posted on 10/16/2005 3:18:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (What happened to the front door at David Koresh's house?)
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To: MizSterious

Just my opinion but anyone can write "your" suicide note on your computer....after yer dead.


164 posted on 10/16/2005 3:22:59 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: TigersEye
It was a martyrdom message. The liberals and muslim death cult supporters in the MSM call it a suicide message.
165 posted on 10/16/2005 3:23:57 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Certain_Doom

What are you talking about? What do you know about this story?


166 posted on 10/16/2005 3:24:06 PM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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To: hoosiermama; hispanarepublicana; PhiKapMom; indcons; mplsconservative; investigateworld; ...

"Suicide note" ping.

"It was a single line of text on his computer," said the father, who lives in Colorado Springs. "The cursor was still blinking at the end." I believe that when pigs start flying.


168 posted on 10/16/2005 3:26:35 PM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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To: MizSterious

First there was no note and now there was a note?


169 posted on 10/16/2005 3:29:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: juntos

Yes, I have, but sometimes they get them right too. I would just like to have someone else verify this, though, before I say this is what happened. Unlike CNN, I'm trying to get it right.


170 posted on 10/16/2005 3:31:08 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious

Have to wonder what he means by "the situation." That seems an odd way to phrase personal sadness or anger, in my opinion. Why wouldn't he have written that he was dissatisfied with "MY situation?" Does it strike anyone else as odd?


171 posted on 10/16/2005 3:32:25 PM PDT by Conservatish
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To: cripplecreek

Did you see the Hinrich's brother (and someone else) interviewed last night on Kasich's show? It was really weird.


172 posted on 10/16/2005 3:35:58 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (There are no short cuts to any place worth going.)
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To: PatriotGirl827

That was the brother and an Oklahoma congressman. They've discovered the story and are doing their best to shut it down. The congressman has been on two days in a row now.


173 posted on 10/16/2005 3:37:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: MizSterious; juntos; All
Hi Miz,

I just checked out Channel 9 for that night. Here is a link to what was broadcast on their nightly news Oct. 1.
http://newsok.com/video/1631552/

Here is the script text for the video report:
1 dead in explosion at OU
By Rosa Flores
News 9
Tonight an explosion on OU's campus.
OU police confirm one person is dead after a suicide bombing near the Microbiology lab.
We begin our team coverage tonight with Rosa Flores.
Rosa what are you learning?

They stated that the only information released by authorities was Boren's first statement which was read aloud by OUPD. Here's a link to Boren's first statement which you can download from my blog.


I'll check out the other stations to see what they have for that night...

175 posted on 10/16/2005 3:39:58 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/15) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: Texas Songwriter

"...while Heinrich left an obscurity on his PC which his father probably did not know how to operate. Fiction again."

Probably not, as someone posted on this board copies of a patent application for computer hardware in the father's name. (you may still be right about the fiction, but probably not about the father's level of computer knowledge.)


176 posted on 10/16/2005 3:43:03 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: cripplecreek

Did it sound to you like the brother was lying? Because he kept stressing how troubled Hinrich's was, and I kept wondering why Kasich never asked if anyone had tried to get him help.

And unfortunately, nobody mentioned the Pakistani roommates, the stuff the bomb was made of, or anything else.

It just sounded to me like someone told the brother what to say. Same with the Congressman.


177 posted on 10/16/2005 3:44:23 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (There are no short cuts to any place worth going.)
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To: MizSterious; juntos

Here is a link to the Ch. 5 KOCO report listed as updated at 9:57pm October 1: http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5046390/detail.html


179 posted on 10/16/2005 3:49:49 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/15) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: SuziQ
"He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living," the father said.

SQ: It doesn't seem that this message was written by a native speaker of the English language. "Dissatisfied with the situation"? "Quit living"?

That is strange phrasing.

Almost as strange as his comment when told his son had committed suicide.

"I would have been there within whatever the speed limit would allow me to be if I had any inclination that he was this unhappy," the father said from his family's home in Colorado Springs the day after the explosion.

Speed limit? WTF? And then last night on FOX News his brother said that Joel had gone through a lot of abuse growing up. He cited "other kids picking on him" not the family but dad didn't know he was "this unhappy" and bro states "he endured a lot of abuse." And Boren states as a matter of fact that "he was a very troubled (person)." Everyone but dad and his roomie seems to have known this kid like the back of their hand, no one is surprised he killed himself, yet he turns his college dorm room into a munitions plant and "no one knew!"

180 posted on 10/16/2005 3:51:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (What happened to the front door from David Koresh's house?)
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