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Miers hitting the books in advance of confirmation hearings (Bork lessons were learned...)
Mercury News ^ | 14 Oct 05 | RON HUTCHESON

Posted on 10/15/2005 11:22:42 AM PDT by gobucks

By the time Senate hearings start in late October or early November, Miers will have completed a crash course in constitutional law.

White House officials and others who are familiar with her preparations said she'd paid little attention to the furor over her nomination while concentrating on the task at hand. They dismissed speculation that she might heed calls from some conservatives for her withdrawal.

Supporters expressed confidence that Miers' appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee will quiet critics who question her qualifications for the nation's highest court. But they acknowledged that any embarrassing mistakes by the nominee could doom her chances.

"One thing that characterizes Harriet is that she is extremely diligent. She's going to be prepared," said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a committee member. "The temptation will be great for some to try to match wits with her on constitutional issues. There's some danger that senators might demonstrate not her lack of knowledge, but their own."

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Although Miers is still in the early stages of her preparation, plans call for her to participate in question-and-answer sessions with top constitutional lawyers after she digests the briefing books. Those informal sessions will evolve into more formal "murder boards," relentless grillings that more closely resemble confirmation hearings.

Roberts wasn't videotaped during his practice sessions, but Miers might be. Some White House officials worry that her quiet, low-key approach may need to be pumped up for television.

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"A good performance by her in the hearings will seal the deal," said Washington lawyer Christopher Bartolomucci, another participant in Roberts' preparation.

By all accounts, Miers is well aware of the stakes.

"She knows the hearings are an important part of the process," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said. "She'll be ready."

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


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To: loboinok
His record for judicial picks is stellar yet is being largely ignored. Since there is such a shortage of writings from Miers, I consider the record and judgement of the man who nominated her.

His past record of picks is not being ignored. It's been looked at, and in nearly every case, the record was at least "adequate," and in many places outstanding (e.g., Owen).

The fallacy you raise is to justify "trust" as a substitute for record. It is not possible to reach an independent conclusion, based on reasoned analysis, wehn the primary "qualification" advanced is "trust me."

Companies have auditors, the US Constitution has Senators who have oversight on the process. If the Senators rely on "trust me," we have a big problem with our government.

241 posted on 10/15/2005 2:43:53 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: trubluolyguy; colorcountry
Have you seen evidence of Harriet Miers being a proponent of diversity over merit? If so, please post or provide link.

Here is the piece that summarizes the evidence. Miers voted for loosening performance requirements for firefighters so that women could qualify. It's also claimed that she and Alberto Gonzales were responsible for watering down the stand Ted Olson wanted to take in opposition to preferences in the U of Michigan case.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502612/posts

If true, between this, her lack of judicial experience, and failure to ever take a strong position on anything except how important lawyers are to our society, there is more than enough reason to object to her nomination. The White House should be embarrassed to have claimed that a woman who needs a crash course in constitutional law is the best-qualified person that it could find.

242 posted on 10/15/2005 2:44:40 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: curiosity
see I'm not the only one here who sees the tremendous damage this perfidious family has inflicted on our nation.


243 posted on 10/15/2005 2:45:32 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: curiosity

Look. This is all about you and others who object to Bush nominating Miers. The first amendment gives you the right to speak out and engage in political dissent. However, the Constitution and the rules of Senate precedent are the criteria for approval of all federal and SC nominees. Period. Alexander Hamilton is dead. With few exceptions, the Senate has turned down nominees for reasoning based on extenuating circumstances, as in ethical and/or legal matters. John Rutledge was not confirmed at the time of his nomination, because of his poor mental condition based on his wifes death. I think if you went down the list of those nominees who have failed to get Senate approval, I'd bet you'd see that the majority of nominees had problems associated with ethical and/or legal matters.


244 posted on 10/15/2005 2:46:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: freespirited

The White House should be embarrassed




Put me in the "not holding my breath" camp.


245 posted on 10/15/2005 2:46:45 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (It didn't have to be Mr. President. It just didn't have to be.)
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To: trubluolyguy

Well, I understand your apprehension. But, what is the purpose for attacking her. All I can see is that she is:

1. a Bush crony,
2.she may or may not be a closet lefty,
3.she used to donate coporately to democrats,
4. she writes cute little notes like a woman..(thank goodness she didn't end with xoxoxo's or draw little hearts)
5. Her grammar isn't very good,
6. etc. etc..............


246 posted on 10/15/2005 2:48:06 PM PDT by colorcountry (George W. Bush... Saving your ass whether you like it or not!)
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To: Cboldt
There is a whole lot of burden shifting going on too. I am pleased that the discussion has moved past the "presumed qualified, prove she isn't" stage.

Excellent point. I found such challenges as "How do you know she won't be a strict constructionist once she's on the Court?" to be too moronic to answer---but apparently the pro-Miers people like such arguments because of their "anti-elitist" cachet.

247 posted on 10/15/2005 2:48:12 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: USPatriette

If sexism is liking gurls, am guilty.


248 posted on 10/15/2005 2:50:27 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Rokke; Cboldt

I think the statement is attributed to a November 21, 1999 Meet the Press interview. Arguably, Bush didn't explicitly promise to appoint judges in the Scalia/Thomas mold, although I think that he certainly intended people to draw that inference. Here's what Bush said:

MR. RUSSERT: Which Supreme Court justice do you really respect?

GOV. BUSH: Well, that's--Anthony [sic] Scalia is one.

MR. RUSSERT: He is someone who wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade.

GOV. BUSH: Well, he's a--there's a lot of reasons why I like Judge Scalia. I tell you a guy who I...

MR. RUSSERT: So you'd want to know how a judge feels about abortion. You just wouldn't put him on the bench blindly.

GOV. BUSH: I want to know how a judge feels about a lot of issues. The most primary one is...

MR. RUSSERT: Including abortion?

GOV. BUSH: The most primary issue--the most primary issue is will they strictly interpret the Constitution of the United States?

MR. RUSSERT: Will your judges and judge appointments to the Supreme Court be similar to Scalia in their temperament and judicial outlook?

GOV. BUSH: Well, I don't think you're going to find many people to be actually similar to him. He's an unusual man. He's an intellect. The reason I like him so much is I got to know him here in Austin when he came down. He's witty, he's interesting, he's firm. There's a lot of reasons why I like Judge Scalia. And I like a lot of the other judges as well. I mean, it's kind of a harsh question to ask because it now pits me--some of whom are friends of mine. I mean, it's--and so, in all due respect, Judge Thomas.


249 posted on 10/15/2005 2:50:37 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (qualified to serve on the United States Supreme Court)
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To: Map Kernow
"If you can't appeal to facts, you try to appeal to emotions. Maybe for the first 24 hours after the announcement, the emotional appeal was limited to "Trust the President!" But when that didn't still the furor but increased it, they went "negative"---BIG time. They're left with nothing but "pushing buttons"---personal attacks, smears, epithets like "elitist" and "sexist." Those type of intimidation tactics should never be allowed to work among conservatives."

Funny, it was Ann Coulter's use of precisely that "type of intimidation tactics" and insults to both Ms. Miers and the President which has caused me to have a negative opinion of her conservative and constitutional credentials and opinions.

Those tactics should remain with the Far Left and their "talking heads." True conservatism deserves better.

250 posted on 10/15/2005 2:50:53 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: curiosity

I don't see Harriet Miers being unqualified to sit on the SCOTUS. Maybe the Senate hearings will change my opinion of her. But right now, so far, so good. You think Miers is unqualified. So be it. Anyone who has been involved in legal matters for over 30 years, is a well known legal quantity, former head of a state bar association and council to the most powerful man in the world, I'd say that person is qualified to be a SC justice. Miers is a professional individual. The fact she is friends with Bush doesn't matter in my opinion. Besisdes, Miers is the nominee and she deserves a fair hearing.


251 posted on 10/15/2005 2:55:10 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Cboldt

Well, if he didn't "say it" in those words, wonder why the white house is not screaming "We didn't do it?" Surely, he said it at some point. I know he said Scalia was his favorite.


252 posted on 10/15/2005 2:57:08 PM PDT by jdhljc169
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To: Rokke
Bush NEVER said that. Many people claim he did because they've heard other people say he did. Therefore, they make such a statement based on ignorance. But once they are provided with the truth that Bush never made such a statement, they become liars every bit as bad as the liberal media when if they continue to make the claim. When a person has to lie to support his position, his position is not worthy of support.

http://www.mrc.org/notablequotables/bestof/2000/pdf/bestofnq2000.pdf
Page 5, LH column, 2nd paragraph)

That's one. Here's another ...

Right Wing Watch Online
July 31, 2000

Presidential candidate George W. Bush has publicly stated that Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, the current Court's most far-right Justices, will be the models for his appointments. One, two or more new Justices who share their judicial philosophy would drastically shift the balance on the Court, spelling disaster for myriad constitutional rights and liberties.

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=3290&print=yes&units=all

I believe, but haven't yet found a transcript of a stump speech, that GWB is the originator of the statement. It shows up in July and December of 2000, as well as being mentioned by Al GOre in the debates. GWB never made an effort to distance himself from it.

I concede that so far I have not found the direct quote, but I have found a number of independent cites. I was honest enough to correct a poster who assert GWB said it in a debate, and I provided a link to the debate transcript.

In fact, GWB could come out today and say, "I never promised judges in the mold of Scalia and Thomas." Whaddya think, good idea? If he did, who's the welcher?

253 posted on 10/15/2005 2:57:08 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: USPatriette

Do you think it's easy to get into Yale, even under affirmative action? Besides, admission is one thing; graduating is another. That Thomas became a conservative while being taught by some of the best liberal legal scholars says a lot about the depth of his conservative convictions.

Look at Thomas's biography--growing up in poverty in a single parent home in Jim Crow Georgia, not being exposed to standard English till he was 16 (he grew up speaking Gullah), and rising from that to the best law school in the country. That takes both toughness and a fine mind. And makes all this stuff about Harriet Miers being the first woman to do this or that sound pretty trivial.


254 posted on 10/15/2005 2:57:16 PM PDT by born in the Bronx
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To: trubluolyguy
If she is so over the top slam dunk qualified, why the hell didn't her buddy in the oval office appoint her to a lower court first to give her some experience?

Or to the Texas Supreme Court when he was governor of Texas.

255 posted on 10/15/2005 2:58:06 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: colorcountry

Well, I understand your apprehension. But, what is the purpose for attacking her




It's not why are people attacking her(opposing her nomination) It's why do others immediately leap to agree that she should be on the court? Everything I have seen writtne by this person leads me to believe she has at best an average mind. We deserve better than average on the court. We deserve better than "trust me you sexist, elitist traitor." Well, I don't trust him. I have my reasons, I will list now.

1)Borders and his outright REFUSAL to stop illegals.

2)Spending like a drunken Kennedy. If this is "compassionate conservatism", no thanks.

3)CFR. He promised to veto it. He signed it.

Read my lips. I don't trust him. Roberts at least had a record. A paper trail that showed him to have a brilliant legal mind. Neither you nor anyone else can point out this nominee's paper trail showing that she also has a brilliant legal mind. Murder Boards and Crash course in Constitutional law? I could see brushing up, but not being experienced in the first place? No excuses.

People say she is an originalist. Whem I ask on what they base this opinion, at best I get ignored. At worst I get get caled some of the most vile names you can come up with.

But to this minute the most pathetic response has been, trust me."


256 posted on 10/15/2005 2:59:07 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (It didn't have to be Mr. President. It just didn't have to be.)
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To: freespirited
Miers was one of 10 Dallas council members to unanimously approve a 1989 agenda item that revised minimum height, weight and vision requirements for Dallas firefighters to facilitate “promotion of certain ranks in the Fire Department,” particularly women. The agenda item’s title: “Implementation of Fire Department Affirmative Action Plan."

Actually this is someones opinion of why the requirements were revised. It appears to apply to promotion of rank once women (or small men) were already on the fire department.

Let's presume (for argument sake) that the height/weight requirements were 5'8" and 150 pounds to be a captain. This would be discriminatory not only to women, but small men (some races are known to be smaller than others.) Captains are basically administrators. Why can't a small man or woman act as an efficient "pencil pusher?" I don't know the facts of the case, do you? What were the particular arguments. Let's see a post on her opinion...not a post by someone else telling us to presume what her opinion was.

257 posted on 10/15/2005 3:01:53 PM PDT by colorcountry (George W. Bush... Saving your ass whether you like it or not!)
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To: loveliberty2
Funny, it was Ann Coulter's use of precisely that "type of intimidation tactics" and insults to both Ms. Miers and the President which has caused me to have a negative opinion of her conservative and constitutional credentials and opinions.

You're "intimidated" by political satire?

258 posted on 10/15/2005 3:02:06 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: trubluolyguy

Why are you so angry? Harriet Miers will either pass muster or not. She should have a vote whatever anybody's personal views of her nomination are. As to why Pres Bush didn't nominate her to some lower court, could it be that Harriet Miers was terribly busy vetting all of the nominees for the lower courts that you anti Miers people now want for SC Justices? Why do you want to believe that Miers would prep candidates so successfully that you and your 'buddies' are screaming for them to be put forth as the perfect conservative candidate for SCJ and not be prepared for the job herself? President Bush, and Cheney, have repeated that Harriet Miers will not legislate from the bench. That means she will adhere to the constitution. That may not be good enough for you. Senator Robert Byrd carries a copy of the constitution around in his shirt pocket and refers to it regularly. Does that make him an acceptable constitutionalist to conservatives? I doubt it.


259 posted on 10/15/2005 3:03:03 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: Cboldt

Or to the Texas Supreme Court when he was governor of Texas.




Good point. He was the Governor for how long and never appointed her? Something smells.


260 posted on 10/15/2005 3:03:22 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (It didn't have to be Mr. President. It just didn't have to be.)
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