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World may have to live with nuclear Iran -US study
ABC News ^ | Oct 13, 2005 | Reuters

Posted on 10/13/2005 4:53:03 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

Iran is determined to acquire nuclear weapons and the United States may find it less costly to deter a nuclear-armed Iran than to dismantle its weapons program, according to two U.S.-funded researchers who advise the Pentagon.

"Can the United States live with a nuclear-armed Iran? Despite its rhetoric, it may have no choice," concluded the report by Judith Yaphe and Air Force Col. Charles Lutes, which was released on Thursday.

The potential for rolling back Iran's program, once it produces a nuclear weapon, "is lower than preventing it in the first place and the costs of rollback may be higher than the costs of deterring and containing a nuclear Iran," they said.

The two analysts are senior fellows at the National Defense University's Institute for National Strategic Studies, which does policy research for the Defense Department.

European powers Britain, France and Germany, with U.S. support, have pursued so-far failed negotiations aimed at persuading Iran to abandon its nuclear activities.

U.S. intelligence says Iran could produce a weapon in about a decade. Tehran insist its aim is peaceful nuclear energy.

European and American officials have long acknowledged privately that thwarting Iran's ambitions is a long shot and the new report reinforces that view.

In a 2001 report, Yaphe, a Mideast expert and former CIA analyst, judged Iran as determined to acquire nuclear weapons.

Nothing in the intervening four years has diverted Tehran from the "systematic pursuit of nuclear technology that could contribute to a weapons program," the new report concluded.

'VIRTUAL NUCLEAR POWER'

The report says most Iran experts believe the Islamic republic would choose to become a "virtual nuclear power," meaning it would not test but would be able to assemble a weapon quickly from prefabricated components.

To U.S. ally Israel, "a nuclear-armed Iran is a clear and.

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1 posted on 10/13/2005 4:53:27 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot

We'll have to live with a nuclear Iran until they use the bomb. And then we will obliterate them.


2 posted on 10/13/2005 4:54:08 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: F14 Pilot
The potential for rolling back Iran's program, once it produces a nuclear weapon, "is lower than preventing it in the first place and the costs of rollback may be higher than the costs of deterring and containing a nuclear Iran," they said

Huh? Who's on first?

3 posted on 10/13/2005 4:56:47 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Brilliant

These liberals protect our enemies with impunity.

We could end the game in one day. 1000 moabs and 10 diamond tip bunker busting nukes...

And....NO NATIONBUILDING THIS TIME!


4 posted on 10/13/2005 4:56:47 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Nothing fills the void of a passing hurricane better than government)
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To: F14 Pilot

Maybe somebody is waiting for the Israelis to do the deed. They do occasionally show they have some stones, at least.


5 posted on 10/13/2005 4:57:02 PM PDT by David Isaac
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To: F14 Pilot
Iran is determined to acquire nuclear weapons and the United States may find it less costly to deter a nuclear-armed Iran than to dismantle its weapons program, according to two U.S.-funded researchers who advise the Pentagon.

Hmmmmm... I wonder which American cities they considered in their study as being cheaper to let be nuked than stopping Iran now? I sure hope they are right. < /sarcasm >

6 posted on 10/13/2005 4:58:17 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: David Isaac

Israel can kiss Tel Aviv, and the state of Israel, goodbye if the Iranians ever get a nuke.


7 posted on 10/13/2005 4:59:35 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: F14 Pilot

Israel will not live with a nuclear Iran. The Israeli Air Force will see to it.


8 posted on 10/13/2005 5:00:38 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: TheDon

NY and Boston, LA is just too far for the camels.


9 posted on 10/13/2005 5:01:33 PM PDT by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims have already started. 1700 replies and not a single post!)
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To: F14 Pilot
the United States may find it less costly to deter a nuclear-armed Iran than to dismantle its weapons program

I wonder whether this cost analysis includes the cost of a nuked city: (a) Tel Aviv, (b) a European city, (c) New York or Washington.

10 posted on 10/13/2005 5:01:55 PM PDT by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills -- NYC/DC/PA, Madrid, London...)
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To: F14 Pilot

Calling Porter Goss!! Calling Porter Goss!!! Loose CIA lib alert!!!!

Profile: Judith Yaphe

Positions that Judith Yaphe has held:
Analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency
Iraq expert at the National Defense University

Quotes
Quote, Early February 2003
“You're left to just hear the nouns, and put them together. It doesn't take me yet to the point where I can say I've seen evidence which convinces me that Saddam Hussein supports al-Qaeda.” [Washington Post, 2/6/03]

Quote, April 2003
“[The Office of the Secretary of Defense] has no interest in what I do. They've brought in their own stable of people from AEI, and the people at the State Department who worked with the Iraqi exiles are being kept from Garner.”

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=judith_yaphe



11 posted on 10/13/2005 5:03:03 PM PDT by frithguild (If I made one mistake, it was that I was too cooperative and waited too long to go on the offensive.)
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To: piasa; Enchante; the Real fifi; ravingnutter
"Can the United States live with a nuclear-armed Iran? Despite its rhetoric, it may have no choice," concluded the report by Judith Yaphe and Air Force Col. Charles Lutes, which was released on Thursday.

EPIC: Education for Peace in Iraq Center: The 2003 Iraq Forum

A SHORT HISTORY of WESTERN IMPERIALISM in IRAQ Judith Yaphe, PhD is a Senior Research Fellow with the Institute for National Strategic Studies at the National Defense University. She is a specialist in Middle Eastern political analysis with special focus on security issues. She is the author of two books, The Strategic Implications of a Nuclear-Armed Iran and The Middle East in 2015 and has written a number of articles on Iraq in RUSI International Security Review , Human Rights and Governance in the Middle East, Middle East Policy and The Washington Quarterly. She received a BA with Honors in History from Moravian College and a Ph.D. in Middle Eastern History from the University of Illinois. Yaphe was the recipient of the Intelligence Medal of Commendation during the second Gulf War.

SNIP

Evening Public Lecture: A State of the Movement Address

EVENING KEYNOTE LECTURE

Ray McGovern was a CIA analyst for 27 years and is on the Steering Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity. He is co-director of the Servant Leadership School, an outreach ministry in inner city Washington D.C.

Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, IV served as a member of the U.S. Diplomatic Service from 1976 until 1998. From 1988 to 1991, Ambassador Wilson served in Baghdad as Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy. As acting Ambassador during "Desert Shield," he was responsible for the negotiations that resulted in the release of several hundred American hostages. He was the last official American to meet with Saddam Hussein before the launching of "Desert Storm." Ambassador Wilson graduated from the University of California at Santa Barbara in 1972. He has been decorated as a Commander in the Order of the Equatorial Star by the Government of Gabon and as an Admiral in the El Paso Navy by the El Paso County Commissioners. He is married to the former Valerie Plame and has four children.

12 posted on 10/13/2005 5:03:27 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Brilliant

The "cost" anlysis of the "experts" is wrong.

Consider the cost of ONE nuclear tipped, Shahab 3, launched from a freighter off the USA, and detonated at a height of about 300 km.

The EMP damage would absolutely desasting to the ENTIRE continental United States.


13 posted on 10/13/2005 5:05:48 PM PDT by msf92497 (The most dangerous place to be is in a "mothers" womb.)
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To: F14 Pilot

ROLLBACK?

Somebody been blowing smoke up their butt.

ROLLBACK?

Like India? Pakistan? You name them?

Idioten.


14 posted on 10/13/2005 5:05:54 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: msf92497

Oops

DEVASTATING...


15 posted on 10/13/2005 5:06:20 PM PDT by msf92497 (The most dangerous place to be is in a "mothers" womb.)
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To: F14 Pilot
World may have to live with nuclear Iran -US study

Sounds like a study done by Jimmy Karter advocates. Jimmy loved to tell America that high taxes, high unemployment, fuel shortages, and being bullied by little pissant countries was just the way of the future and that we would all just have to live with it because nothing can be done.

16 posted on 10/13/2005 5:07:05 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Brilliant
Iran is a country hostile to the US, and to US interests in the Middle East. Like Syria, they never miss a chance to infiltrate insurgents into Iraq.

We don't have to live with anything.

17 posted on 10/13/2005 5:09:03 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Brilliant
I don't think we should wait.

The blackmail will start right out of the box and there are way too many copperheads, quislings and appeasers in the west for it to not work.

Plus, they could deploy a weapon via terror cell surrogates and deny any involvement. The usual lefty traitors in Congress and the media in the U.S. would never permit a counter strike -- even if our intelligence people were certain the bomb came from Iran.
18 posted on 10/13/2005 5:10:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: F14 Pilot

"They also warned that if Washington sought to change the government in Tehran — as it did in Iraq — there is an "extremely high risk that the Iranian regime would use its nuclear weapon in a last-ditch effort to save itself."

Not if they don't have one.


19 posted on 10/13/2005 5:17:39 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: F14 Pilot

This whole argument seems more like Euroweenies than America, although it comes from ABC. The premise that we must accept an unacceptable situation so that we can discuss it further until endless dialgoue ensues is just plain "appeasement" by another name, and, as such is the heart of the continuous, historical failures of Europeans. The American left, having found no other allies, have thrown their lot in with the Euros in assuming that confrontaiton is the worst case scenerio..."appeasement at all costs."


20 posted on 10/13/2005 5:18:31 PM PDT by Rudder
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