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The hot real estate market has cooled off in Michigan. Air is leaking out of the real estate bubble nationally. Interest rates for home loans has gone up to about 6.2% on thirty year financing for people with strong credit. (Learn More?) What were naysaying Freepers saying just yesterday? Oh, I know what it was: "Prices are still going up in fly over country . . ." and "There is no bubble here." Some were saying that the bubble is limited to the coastal regions. Looks like you are wrong yesterday. If you are wrong again tomorrow, the real estate bubble may burst with a huge negative *BANG* . . .
1 posted on 10/13/2005 10:46:07 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan

*BANG*, *BANG*, *BANG*, *BANG*, *BANG*, *BANG*

Thats the bubble's in FL, MA, CA, PA, NY, and VA imploding.


2 posted on 10/13/2005 10:56:33 AM PDT by fairtrader
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To: TheSpottedOwl
From Bloomberg.com today in London comes an interesting report that cannot be posted in full on Free Republic:

A brief excerpt permissible under the fair use doctrine:

Surging investment in real estate over the past decade has led to a bubble that threatens to send the world economy into recession, economist Roger Bootle said.

House prices and the economy enjoy a ``symbiotic relationship,'' Bootle, economic adviser to accountants Deloitte & Touche LLP and a former adviser to the U.K. Treasury, said in a revised edition of his book, ``Money for Nothing.'' As the housing boom ends, consumers will feel poorer and pare spending, driving up unemployment, he said.

Housing Bubble Threatens Global Economic Growth

3 posted on 10/13/2005 10:57:54 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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You are wrong. This shows exactly what I said would happen, a leveling off of prices. A bubble would be if prices dropped 20% or over most of the country. You point to one area where prices have leveled off and declare a bubble is here. The only bubble is inside your head.


4 posted on 10/13/2005 11:01:24 AM PDT by Always Right
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Michigan will probably get worse with the Delphi/GM situation.
5 posted on 10/13/2005 11:04:23 AM PDT by bella1
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You are just like the global-warming fraudsters.

Any anectodtal evidence supporting your position is bellowed from the rooftops, and any evidence refuting it is pretended to not exist and anyone saying it does is called names.

6 posted on 10/13/2005 11:06:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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Prices continue to rise here. I'm in Bucks County, PA.

I hope this new "trend" hits here in the next week or two. I would like to see prices drop by about $30k-$50k. Why? Because we just sold our condo and are now looking for a house. Closing on our condo isn't until Jan 31st (at the latest, but the couple buying it said they wish to spend one more Christmas in their house of 35 years). So I figure no earlier than Jan 1st will we be closing.

That gives us a great advantage for buying now. We are in no rush, there is no pressure.


7 posted on 10/13/2005 11:10:12 AM PDT by kx9088
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The hot real estate market has cooled off in Michigan.

Because (as the article says) the economy is in the tank. Why? They now have a Democrat governor. One can conclude nothing nationally from this fact, except that Democrats can screw up even the most vibrant economy. (Which is precisely what Michigan had, under three terms of Engler.)

9 posted on 10/13/2005 11:14:04 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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I imagine going upside-down with a big mortgage is worse than with a car loan. It would take many years of payments to have any equity again, chasing the downward price trend. Lots of 85% and even 90% loans out there.


15 posted on 10/13/2005 11:21:12 AM PDT by polymuser
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The national average for appreciation was 14 percent in 2004. Washtenaw County last year averaged just 1.5 percent appreciation

The point is not that Michigan's bubble is bursting; it's that its economy sucks so houses aren't appreciating like other places. The people fleeing Michigan are probably driving up values elsewhere.

18 posted on 10/13/2005 11:25:29 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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Bump.


22 posted on 10/13/2005 11:30:12 AM PDT by surely_you_jest
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We haven't had to worry about any "bubble" but we've got a new neighbor moving in to our community...

BusinessWeek Online

27 posted on 10/13/2005 11:39:41 AM PDT by Hatteras
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What were naysaying Freepers saying just yesterday?

I said in a thread yesterday that prices in Michigan had been flat to falling for the last 3 years. It has been frustrating for some people but could hardly be called a crisis. It's hard to pop a half inflated balloon. Prices in Michigan doubled in many areas from depressed values in the early 90's and peaked between 2001 and 2003. I haven't done all the formal math, but if I take a property I have owned since 1994, and discounting home improvements increasing value, this growth outpaced 3% average annual inflation by about 25%. So you could say that 25% was the real return or appreciation over 11 years. About 2% annually. That is a lot less than many other asset classes.

Obviously things occasionally break way below the trend line, like in the Great Depression, so anything could happen. But I don't expect too much downside in Michigan in the short and medium term. The usual bubble markets (Cali, FLA, NE) are poised for a bigger hit. And like any market in correction, the people who bought at the top will be the most disappointed. I just don't believe we are on the brink of disaster.

28 posted on 10/13/2005 11:43:06 AM PDT by JTHomes
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The real estate bubble is bursting in Ga. as well, simply because we are trying to sell a house.

We are always too late in the "hot" investments.

In 2000, we invested $40K in a red hot tech stock IPO.
Lost it.

This year we bought a much bigger and more expensive house with the idea of making money on our other house and on the sale of this one in two years.

Well, there goes the real estate market.
I'm not surprised!

I advise folks to steer clear of any type of investment they see us getting into cause it is sure to tank!


36 posted on 10/13/2005 11:50:58 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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Here's one for 5k. Maybe not the Taj Mahal but housing is available bubbly or not


1349 Woodlawn Wilkinsburg, PA 15221
$ 5,000
2 Bedrooms, 1 Full Bath, 0 Half Baths Style: 2 ST
County: South Allegheny School District: Wilkinsburg Taxes: $1082 Mortgage Calculation Dining Room: Main Level Living Room: Main Level Kitchen: Main Level Master Bedroom 1: Upper Level Bedroom 2: Upper Level Basement: unfin Lot Dimensions: 100x48 MLS Number: W585702 Presented by: HOWARD HANNA REAL ESTATE SERVICES Contact Us (412) 967-7100 x206 (800) 656-7356 x206 Courtesy of: KELLER WILLIAMS REALTY
41 posted on 10/13/2005 12:04:31 PM PDT by Kokojmudd (Trade the US Senate for the Iraqi Parliament!)
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I have a friend who just moved out of Phoenix. The sale of her old house has fallen through three times in the last few months and is still on the market.

Of course, if and when it does sell she'll still probably make more than double what she paid for it just a few years ago, but still, right before she put it on the market most houses in the area were selling within days.


42 posted on 10/13/2005 12:05:36 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Pirro '06 - Save New York!)
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Does this mean that I will soon be able to afford a house? My lease is up in March 06.


45 posted on 10/13/2005 12:08:34 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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"Through August 2005 the median sale price of a home in Washtenaw County was $227,500, compared to $230,000 that time last year. "

That is less than a nice mobile home in Romona Ca, and I would rather live in the mobile home. (The price on the mobile home is: $279,000)

http://www.mhvillage.com/Listing.php?key=52773&start=1&pos=


59 posted on 10/13/2005 1:07:40 PM PDT by NathanR (Mexico: So far from God; So close to the USA.)
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ping


73 posted on 10/13/2005 5:50:30 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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You sure seem to want the bubble to burst....waiting to buy?


76 posted on 10/13/2005 6:34:54 PM PDT by TheLion
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Anyone familiar with Dave Ramsey? He's big on paying off your mortgage. We have become a nation of people that buy houses without expecting to do that.


80 posted on 10/13/2005 7:46:48 PM PDT by mingwah (teach us to number our days aright Ps 90:12)
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