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Robert Shapiro's son dies at L.A. hospital
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/12892369.htm ^

Posted on 10/13/2005 8:06:39 AM PDT by lunarbicep

LOS ANGELES - The 24-year-old son of O.J. Simpson defense attorney Robert Shapiro died at a hospital after being found unconscious, and the coroner's office said he had tested positive for amphetamines.

Brent Shapiro, a University of Southern California graduate who had just enrolled in law school, died Monday. He had been found unconscious the morning before.

Officials at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center Hospital told the coroner's office that Shapiro had tested positive for the drug, said Lt. David Smith, a coroner's office spokesman.

"It's being considered an accidental death," he said.

An official ruling on cause of death will be made after toxicology results come back in eight to 10 weeks, Smith said.

Robert Shapiro and his office declined to comment. He was a key member of the "dream team" that successfully defended Simpson against charges that he murdered his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman in 1994.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: amphetamines; brentshapiro; cedarssinai; losangeles; oj; ojsimpson; overdose; robertshapiro; usc
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To: Pessimist
You will get flack for seemingly being insensitive, however I think I understand your point.


In the '60's & '70's amphetamines seemed to be everywhere. As a father, I was constantly on guard against them with my children.

Though none died from them, or other drugs, they used and abused them.

Of the four, three grew up to be non drug users. The one that persisted is a "professional" user, which leaves the parents simply waiting the inevitable, though constantly hoping.

In any event it is a sad situation.



41 posted on 10/13/2005 8:32:11 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: Hildy
np

One could make a strong arguement that he's brain dead.
42 posted on 10/13/2005 8:32:23 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Ham & Eggs: A day's work for a hen, A lifetime commitment for a pig.)
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To: Hildy
Hey, remember when we did the OJ death drive?

Oh yeah.

43 posted on 10/13/2005 8:32:24 AM PDT by veronica ("clowns clones clowns/ it's raining clowns/snarling FR obsessed clones/ claws bared clowns"...)
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To: veronica; Hildy

Tell us about the Death Drive.

Us in NY really could not do much of anything except look at our t'v and throw stuff.


44 posted on 10/13/2005 8:34:47 AM PDT by alisasny (Liberal UTOPIA rains down in New Orleans Way to go)
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To: Hildy

F. Lee Bailey is alive and 72. You were thinking Melvin Belli, maybe? Kardashian, however, is dead.


45 posted on 10/13/2005 8:36:35 AM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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To: Paved Paradise

Karma isn't unfair, and that word for the idea might be Godless but the idea itself isn't. "As ye reap so shall ye sow", same idea different religion.


46 posted on 10/13/2005 8:36:47 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: discostu

Right. Karma, just desserts, whatever.


47 posted on 10/13/2005 8:39:32 AM PDT by veronica ("clowns clones clowns/ it's raining clowns/snarling FR obsessed clones/ claws bared clowns"...)
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To: lunarbicep

I'm very sorry for his loss.


48 posted on 10/13/2005 8:40:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: lunarbicep
"It's being considered an accidental death," he said.

The Son has had a very troubled past, it was not an accident the road he took has only one end.

Condolences to the Family.

49 posted on 10/13/2005 8:42:42 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: veronica
Right. Karma, just desserts, whatever.

I understand the instinct to wish harm on those that harmed us (or society-at-large), but several things spring to mind:

Shapiro was merely doing what our society requires: That even the guilty get the best possible defense. Our adversarial system of law is not without miscarriages, but it is the best system going (in theory -- these days we've destroyed even that).

When urges to truly hate a person come, pray for them and wish the very best for them. They are unaware of your hate, so all it does is damage you -- and if you replace those negative emotions with esteemable ones, you will feel better about yourself and eventually learn to forgive the harming party.

50 posted on 10/13/2005 8:44:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Paved Paradise
This is a very sad story. You wrote: "I believe [Shapiro] and the other attorneys knew OJ was guilty and let him get away with murder." You are right. The next time the verdict is rebroadcast, take note of Kardashian's reaction to "Not Guilty". Kardashian was clearly stunned and unhappy. I've always thought that by the time OJ was on tiral, Kardashian regretted having got rid of the evidence for OJ, and consoled himself with, "Oh, he'll be found guilty, so it'll be ok."
51 posted on 10/13/2005 8:48:34 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: Lazamataz
It's the Jewish day of Atonement, and I wonder if Mr. Shapiro won't see some irony in that.

There are lawyers who walked away from that case. I realize everyone deserves a defense, but that doesn't change the fact that a guilty man walked free, and that the Dream Team, and that idiot Ito facilitated it. And that moronic jury as well. This isn't a court of law and I don't have to be fair and balanced in my view. It was a travesty of justice and I can't help but note that what goes around comes around, so it seems.

52 posted on 10/13/2005 8:51:16 AM PDT by veronica ("clowns clones clowns/ it's raining clowns/snarling FR obsessed clones/ claws bared clowns"...)
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To: discostu

karma and sowing and reaping are lightyears apart. Sowing and reaping has to do with direct consequences of what we do. Karma is all about how you will be reincarnated as a lower life form to atone for the wrong things you have done in the previous life or lives for that matter. Furthermore, one of the more hideous aspects of karma is in how the cultures deal with things like poverty, disease, deformities, and such. They don't try to make things better because the people are "just working out their karma." No one will try to find help for the poor kid born without a leg because they don't want to mess with the karma. If you can't see the evil behind this, I would jlike to make a suggestion that you read up a little on the true outcomes of holding to this kind of a belief system.

Respectfully yours,

PP


53 posted on 10/13/2005 8:53:08 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: veronica
There are lawyers who walked away from that case. I realize everyone deserves a defense, but that doesn't change the fact that a guilty man walked free, and that the Dream Team, and that idiot Ito facilitated it.

True, but I prefer a system in which occasionally, guilty people go free, than one in which innocence is no defense*.

* Such as the one we have today in 2005.

It was a travesty of justice and I can't help but note that what goes around comes around, so it seems.

My experience is that no good can come out of that emotion.

54 posted on 10/13/2005 8:54:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: utahagen

I believe this as well.


55 posted on 10/13/2005 8:54:30 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: xsmommy

I thought he was dead too.


56 posted on 10/13/2005 8:56:54 AM PDT by no dems (43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, 2 to pull a trigger: I'm lazy and tired of smiling,)
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To: misterrob
That's cold. A young man with his whole life in front of him died.

True. but so did Nicole and the other young man who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

57 posted on 10/13/2005 8:59:39 AM PDT by It's me
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To: Paved Paradise

Partly but not really. Karma (and more so Dharma) effects how you reincarnate. But in the more common use karma is about direct consequences of what we do. The basic tenent people are referring to when they say some bad thing happening to someone was karma is this "that which you put on the wheel (of karma) comes back at you three fold", which is the exact smae thing as sowing and reaping only with a different metaphor.

Again not really. Where karma is believed in strongly people are supposed to give to beggars, it's good karma; they do treat disease, and deformities that can be dealt with should. Yes there is the idea that they are paying for some past wrong but that isn't a reason to ignore them. People do try to find help for the poor kid born without a leg, I don't know where you heard they don't but that person lied to you.

I've read up more than a little on the belief system and how it works, what you say about it is simply untrue, that's not how the belief works, that's not what people with the belief do, it's just not reality.


58 posted on 10/13/2005 9:00:24 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: lunarbicep

Sad.....prayers for Mr. Shapiro and his family. Amphetamines or not, he was their child, their son and this must be the most devestating thing to have ever happened to them. May God give them comfort.


59 posted on 10/13/2005 9:00:26 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Lazamataz
I guess you live on a higher plane of consciousness than I do. :)

Would you argue for instance, that I should not have taken satifaction in the death of Arafat? Or should Bin Laden be killed, should I "forgive" him for 9-11? Or would I be justified in taking satisfaction in justice been served? Hmmmm? Ponder that for a while.

60 posted on 10/13/2005 9:01:17 AM PDT by veronica ("clowns clones clowns/ it's raining clowns/snarling FR obsessed clones/ claws bared clowns"...)
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