Posted on 10/12/2005 8:24:45 PM PDT by navysealdad
Game 2 of the ACLS left Chicago celebrating a 2-1 victory. Controversial strikeout didn't end the ninth..
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are you for real??? you're not related to the Gore family ,are you??
I figure the batter suddenly changed his mind and took off toward first for some reason. I believe that the reason is that the umpire did not say something that the batter expected to hear, namely, "Out!"
The thing is, the batter reacted and the Angels watched him run all the way to first base without reacting at all. Very puzzling.
Disclaimer: I have no horse in this race - - I like both teams, and in fact my parents are friends with some elder Soscia relatives. I do not think anybody cheated, but I do wonder if the umpire got caught off guard and froze when the batter took off toward first base and then was too embarrassed to say, "Uh, no... you were out swinging."
No gots.
That would be interesting to see.
No, Hole, thats not true.
The outstretched hand signals NO Contact. (your first frame).
The second frame signals Strike. Just like any other strike. A clenched fist by the plate umpire does not indicate out.
Umpire Signs and Signals
http://www.corson.org/John/Hobbies/Baseball/Signs.html#Out!
Strike
Always signaled with the right hand, each umpire develops a personalized system for signaling the strike. Some do the traditional clenched fist; some indicate the strike out to the side with an open hand. Some umpires nice forward, some turn. Some call strike then signal, others do both simultaneously. One essential element is not to turn away from the action particularly in a two-man system. In a two or three-man system, by not facing forward, an umpire might even miss a play at the plate while going through their actions.
Should you say "Strike," signal "Strike" or both?
Philip Gawthrop from Anne Arundel County, Maryland wrote to add this comment: "Generally, on a swinging strike, as the plate umpire, I NEVER VERBALIZE my call but rather indicate to the players and fans with a raised right arm (in my case, with a clenched fist). The exception to the NOT VERBALIZING is on a third strike; the plate umpire again raises his right arm and says, "Strike Three" firmly but does not "sell the call." If the catcher has dropped or trapped the pitch, you still go through with a firm "Strike Three" keeping eye contact with the batter/catcher."
"Out!"
The clenched right fist and a short hammered motion seem to be favored by most umpires. Again, personal style is acceptable as long as it does not distract you from seeing any other plays taking place. It is advisable to wait a second or two before making this call. Watch that the ball does not come loose and check that the fielder is really in possession of the ball. The call can be made with only a gesture or can be sold with a loud call of "Out!" Signal every out.
Never say "Strike three - You're out!"
Umpires are encouraged not to make this call a part of their repertoire. Why? In some leagues the third strike does not have to be caught while in others it must be caught. Often the plate umpire is in the worst situation to call the trapped ball, for example: a breaking ball in the dirt for the swinging third strike. An umpire should only call "Strike three." If you have a situation where you know the batter now erroneously becomes a runner you can follow this by the call "The Batter is out!"
Dropped Third Strike
Where this call is made the base umpire is often in a better position to relay the possession or trapping of the ball to the plate umpire. Signaling, not calling, a small discreet "out" means the ball was caught. Pointing to the ground with your right hand can mean the ball was trapped or not caught.
Don't get snippy.
Is Will Ferrell involved in any way?
To equate a controversial call by the plate umpire with a conspiracy by players to take money to purposely lose a World Series shows YOU are bush league!
Where was the puff of dirt kicked up by the ball hitting the ground? There was none.
I'm witchoo Simmons.
Yup. This is basebal.
The sox got NO EARNED RUNS in that game. That's not unusual.
Everybody knows the rules going in. There's no crying in baseball.
The catcher said if the umpires see a ball in the dirt they yell "no catch, No catch" he didn't ?!!
Joe West gave the halos a big break in game 5, now the ball bounces the other way and the Halos whine? And please put those stupid thunder sticks away and enough with the rally monkey (and fill in the "rock sculpture"). With that said, I'm glad Sciocia didn't just blame the ump; the team didn't hit because Buehrle sat them down.
The ump emphatically called Konerko out on a check swing earlier. He had a bad night all around.
mmmmmm.....jusssssst maybe!
:-D )))
very nice..implicate the team huh?? tighten your tin foil bud!!
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