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To: Gondring
Pragmatism is to reach your goal without the need to bloody idealogical battles that will lead to defeat in many cases and alienate a large portion of the electorate.

Do you know the reason why 30% of conservatives are against the anti-Miers nomination? It is because they did not get the BLOODY battle that they were waiting for with liberals. They want a fight more than anything else. They want an openly know conservative judge so they will drive the liberals and the media insane and in raged with hate and they in turn will spew anger and hate toward liberals. Although there is over 80% chance of losing the war of getting the conservative judge on the Supreme Court because of liberal and RINO senators, but it seems that winning the war for them is not the goal but rather the emotional intensity of fighting a bloody war with the left.

27 posted on 10/12/2005 6:29:44 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: jveritas

anti-Miers=Miers.


34 posted on 10/12/2005 6:32:16 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: jveritas

With all due respect, your view is too short-sighted and narrow. The American people are getting sick of the games of the left, and if President Bush had made a courageous appointment and wasn't intimidated into a "Stealth" candidate, then the left either had to accept the nominee or look bad by rejecting the nominee. Conservatives would win either way.


45 posted on 10/12/2005 6:43:00 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: jveritas

Conservatives realize that the best defense is a good offense.

As long as the Republicans are attacking the Democrats, the Democrats will be on the defensive. That allows the Republicans to set the agenda, while Democrats can only rebut the Republican argument.

That leaves the Republicans with the upper hand.

President Bush and the RINO's have been trying to reverse that; having the Democrats on the offensive. And that is a sure-fire way to lose.


47 posted on 10/12/2005 6:44:24 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: jveritas
Do you know the reason why 30% of conservatives are against the anti-Miers nomination? It is because they did not get the BLOODY battle that they were waiting for with liberals. They want a fight more than anything else.

You've gone off the deep end...WE, want to get back to a Constitutional Government...You don't get that, do you??? That means nothing to you...It's not even in your deck of cards...

48 posted on 10/12/2005 6:44:37 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: jveritas

"Do you know the reason why 30% of conservatives are against the anti-Miers nomination? It is because they did not get the BLOODY battle that they were waiting for with liberals. They want a fight more than anything else. They want an openly know conservative judge so they will drive the liberals and the media insane and in raged with hate and they in turn will spew anger and hate toward liberals. Although there is over 80% chance of losing the war of Uetting the conservative judge on the Supreme Court because of liberal and RINO senators, but it seems that winning the war for them is not the goal but rather the emotional intensity of fighting a bloody war with the left."


ummmm, that would be a big fat "wrong"

speak for yourself, please.


66 posted on 10/12/2005 6:57:02 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: jveritas

"Pragmatism is to reach your goal without the need to bloody idealogical battles that will lead to defeat in many cases and alienate a large portion of the electorate."

So what? About half the electorate doesn't show up every four years.

If given the choice between the French Revolution (Progressive Dems) and American Revolution (Conservative Republicans) is too polarizing and "extremist" for a large portion of the electorate, that's THEIR problem.

Truth is, these extremists will decide what direction we wind up in, in the long term. Left or Right. One of the other. To cede "extremism" to the Dems, in an attempt to embrace some sort of middle of the road, big government, welfarism means precisely to cede the fight and wind up Left, down the line.

The Left will never give up. Neither will we. The mushy middle can pick sides, or just sit it out.


134 posted on 10/13/2005 1:20:05 PM PDT by Frank T
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