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MIERS & LAST-MINUTE DROP-OUTS (Priscilla Owen did not withdraw her name)
National Review Online: The Corner ^ | 10-12-2005 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 10/12/2005 12:26:51 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite

MIERS & LAST-MINUTE DROP-OUTS [Kathryn Jean Lopez] A journalist friend just spoke with a top Texas lawyer who spoke with Priscilla Owen last week. He says that she "most emphatically" did not withdraw her name from consideration to the Court. If the White House spin is that Harriet Miers got the job because nobody else wanted it, it would seem that the White House is at a desperation point. Posted at 12:07 PM


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: harrietmiers; miers; priscillaowen; scotus
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Of course the GOP doesn't believe in affirmative action and quotas, but we must have a woman for this position. Males need not apply or be considered.


341 posted on 10/12/2005 3:34:39 PM PDT by kabar
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To: rbmillerjr
See post #155 where a September 30 cite says Owen withdrew her name. Note that is days before Mier was named.
342 posted on 10/12/2005 3:36:09 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: All

Here is the link to yesterdays FReeper article stating that it was Rove himself who told Dobson that most of the potential nominees had withdrawn their names.

Then a poster on this board (see posts 1 thru 13) stated that he/she knew that Owen was one of them. I put post 13 on their because I smelled rotten fish.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1500910/



343 posted on 10/12/2005 3:37:17 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Ken H

I think people are looking much too carefully into Dobson's poor choice of words. Nobody at the WH lied to Dobson. People just inferred too much or misunderstood Dobson's language, that's all.


344 posted on 10/12/2005 3:37:39 PM PDT by AmishDude (If Miers isn't qualified, neither are you and you have no right to complain about any SC decision.)
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To: jdm; flashbunny
I'd look for a graceful withdrawl, from the nominee, of course...

I certainly hope so. This is an awful embarrassment! Withdraw, Ms. Miers!

345 posted on 10/12/2005 3:42:43 PM PDT by meema (I am not an elitist, and have been a conservative traditional Republican all my life.)
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To: flashbunny

"I want someone who has fought the hard battles for years. Someone who has put their principles out for the world to see - not someone who has made keeping those positions hidden one of their highest priorities in life."


Amen!


346 posted on 10/12/2005 3:44:22 PM PDT by Proud Conservative2 (Protect America....Help stamp out gutless wonders in the Senate.)
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To: meema

Agreed. Withdrawl.

Do what is right for the Party.


347 posted on 10/12/2005 3:44:43 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Keith
I would be willing to bet that he is stunned, after going to the mat for YEARS on behalf of people like Owens, Pryor, Brown, Estrada, etc. that the base would question his committment to picking originalist judges. I still contend that he had been told, after they let Roberts off easy, that it would be nigh impossible for him to get a true conservative through on the next nomination. I think he thought he would be congratulated by his supporters for putting an originalist on the court that they couldn't use a paper trail on to reject this nominee.

Miers is not an originalist judge nominee. Why have a 55/44 majority in the senate if not to offer up nominees that have a background in constitutional law? "Trust me" on a blank check? "Trust me" because "I know her heart"?

Even to the layman, Ms. Miers is unqualified for SCOTUS.

348 posted on 10/12/2005 3:48:32 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: Stellar Dendrite

If this is true, and it would certainly seem to be, then it means that Bush and Rove flat-out lied, first to Gary Bauer and company, and then to their base.

This really is getting to be beyond enough. If this is true, then either Bush pulls this loser of a nomination or he loses my support, permanently. There's simply no excuse for this kind of nonsense.


349 posted on 10/12/2005 3:49:00 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
If this is true, and it would certainly seem to be

It does not seem to be as this report would have it. Post #155 has a September 30 article about Owen withdrawing her name---before Miers was nominated on October 3.

350 posted on 10/12/2005 3:56:02 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Les_Miserables
You think they have offered significant evidence to support her?

What I said is that a friend of a friend of a friend is not evidence either. But this whole thing is laughable really. Mier's detractors are concocting extra-constitional requirements as proof that she won't do the same on the bench, conservatives are demanding to know votes in advance, and people like Kristol and Buchanan who have steered their philosophical boats to multiple political defeats are the center of attention. Like I said...laughable.

351 posted on 10/12/2005 3:56:07 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: rbmillerjr

We agree. Withdraw. Do what is right for our country, SCOTUS, POTUS and our Party.


352 posted on 10/12/2005 4:03:10 PM PDT by meema (I am not an elitist, and have been a conservative traditional Republican all my life.)
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To: sinkspur

Get a hearing aid. You are tone deaf. No one cares what you think.


353 posted on 10/12/2005 4:10:08 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Victory is Ours)
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To: cyncooper

Owen empathically denies that she withdrew her name.


354 posted on 10/12/2005 4:11:40 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: VRWC For Truth
Get a hearing aid. You are tone deaf. No one cares what you think.

You do. You post to me.

Why do I need a hearing aid on a workstation?

You can't even get your analogies straight.

355 posted on 10/12/2005 4:13:15 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Source, please. (And don't make it the friend of a friend one)


356 posted on 10/12/2005 4:15:46 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: AmishDude
I think people are looking much too carefully into Dobson's poor choice of words. Nobody at the WH lied to Dobson. People just inferred too much or misunderstood Dobson's language, that's all.

I wasn't saying anyone at the WH was lying. My point was that men were excluded from consideration.

Dobson: "He [Rove] also made it clear that the President was looking for a certain kind of candidate, namely a woman to replace Justice O'Connor. And you can imagine what that did to the short list."

357 posted on 10/12/2005 4:22:40 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I dunno. Seems to me that no SCOTUS candidate would whine like that, especially if they wanted it. It would be a sure way never to be considered again, in my book.

I'm coming down against the nomination. Unless she withdraws, which with the information we have now seems unlikely, she'll get confirmed.

Democrats will want to use that as a campaign issue - turning their previous obstruction strategy on it's ear.

The line will be: "We confirmed her because the president wanted her, even though we don't believe she is qualified. Obviously only DEMOCRATS can give you qualified justices....vote for us".

That is where I think they'll take this in 2006 and to a greater extent in 2008........And it's a great issue for them - there is the issue itself and the ability to prolong the divide between the Conservatives and the Pragmatics in the Republican party.

Lesson learned: If you don't elect a conservative, don't expect him to act like one later.


358 posted on 10/12/2005 4:39:57 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Cboldt
My examples show that throughout the entire history of the Constitution, the Senate has used all the rascally tricks it could devise, and there's nothing in the Constitution to stop them. There's no court case that says they must stop. There is no Senate rule that says they must stop.

Lord knows there are plenty of complaints from the executive, and if you ask me, that's as it should be. You can show me no court ruling or any documentation to support your side of the argument. And in the face of 200 years of the Senate exerting itself on the process to the full extent allowed, by all the strange means they employ, you simply protest. Of course you do, your "team", the guy you root for, is the president. Like many presidents before him--even George Washington--he is harassed by 100 Senators who refuse to bow to him. And again, that's as it should be. All you so-called republicans (or are you merely Republicans) who advocate lickng the president's boots ought to be ashamed of yourselves. George W. Bush, a medicrity, presumes more than did George Washington, an absolute human collossus.

359 posted on 10/12/2005 5:01:31 PM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: Cboldt

And I say all that even though I don't want Schumer and Leahy to prevail. But, just like a team that gets whooped on the field, I have to hand it to them. They do a great job of playing defense. Actually, I think our system makes it easier to play defense than it is to play offense. It's easier to defeat stuff. Again, as it should be. I would like to see our side fight and win some good appointments. But then, to tell you the truth, even the great ones let you down. And we survive the bad ones.


360 posted on 10/12/2005 5:09:40 PM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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