Posted on 10/12/2005 9:40:01 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
President Bush said Wednesday that Harriet Miers' religious beliefs figured into her nomination to the Supreme Court as a top-ranking Democrat warned against any "wink and a nod" campaign for confirmation.
"People are interested to know why I picked Harriet Miers," Bush told reporters at the White House. "Part of Harriet Miers' life is her religion."
Bush, speaking at the conclusion of an Oval Office meeting with visiting Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski, said that his advisers were reaching out to conservatives who oppose her nomination "just to explain the facts." He spoke on a day in which conservative James Dobson, founder of Focus on Family, said he had discussed the nominee's religious views with presidential aide Karl Rove.
This is not a "religious test". Religion, at least some religions, define a philosophy of life. It is the outward effect of religion that Bush is citing as important.
The argument against "religious tests" as regards nominees is that you should not point out that a persons religion teaches a specific fact which would override that person's adherance to the law.
For example, an evangelical may believe that you should not drink. But it would be inappropriate reject the nominee because you say they will rule against beer companies.
If religious views gave a president comfort that a nominee can be trusted, there is nothing wrong with that. Bush's religious views helped me to trust him, because I know his faith puts a premium on being truthful.
And you all know this, or at least most of you. In this particular instance your common sense is overridden by ulterior motives, which I will not discuss because I am still out of that discussion.
As to the constitutional argument, I will just say that it is a good thing that nobody nominated any of you to the court, because your interpretation of the constitution is woefully suspect in this instance.
I can't believe I'm defending Bush on this one, but I am ...
"What are the dems gonna say? You're a Christian so we don't want you on the SC?"
Believe it or not, it seems to be the conservatives who are pushing that issue ......
How do you know she is not qualified? Do you know more about her than President Bush? If you do please share it with us.
Not all conservatives. I think she'll do just fine. And I'm glad she isn't a judge.
Well, I can. It is unconstitutional to make such considerations. "...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
Glad to hear that. I agree with you 100% So do many people I know.
>I would HOPE that if, theoretically, a better candidate was atheist, he would go with the better candidate. We're appointing a jurist, not a pope - and I'm a practicing Catholic, so that's not a swipe at Christianity.<
You sound more like one of those Dems that calls CSpan on the GOP line and bashes Bush.
No Christian would advocate putting an agent of Satan in a position of leadership.I suggest you do a little less practicing and a little more being.
Why do you consider it a test?
How do you know she is not qualified? Do you know more about her than President Bush? If you do please share it with us.
That is a 180 degree reversal of the burden of proof and I'm sick of reading it on these threads.
Those who are critical don't owe the proponents an explanation. The burden is on the President to show us and the Senate why she's qualified. After all, he selected her to spend the remainder of her natural life on the nation's highest court, deciding issues of grave importance to this country.
And if the best you can offer is:
(A) Wait until the hearings, (B) I trust Bush; and now (C) She goes to the right Church
then I would say you haven't carried your burden.
I'm open to being convinced, but intimating that I'm sexist, elitist, a potential third party "unappeasable", and now that I (who was raised Baptist) am anti-evangelical is NOT going to cut it. In fact, its starting to make me think unpleasant thoughts about President Bush that he and his supporters would DREAM of employing these tactics AGAINST his base!
The Justices of the SCOTUS consult and are called upon to interpret more than just their pocket constitutions.
This Huey Long populist "anybody can be a Supreme Court Justice" argument is another real irritant. Since when did conservative thought get so anti-intellectual and anti-merit?
There was no TEST! He picked someone he was comfortable with - what is the problem with that? It's his pick - not his "base", not the dems, not Laura's, not yours, not mine - his. What have you got against this woman?
How about these five: Bush vowed nominating another Scalia.
>All they have to do is cite the constitution and ask a professed originalist what her opinion is on religious tests. Either she's against her own nomination (with W's words in quotes), or she's proven to be a phony originalist. They don't have to utter the word "religion" to back her into a corner. <
I am glad you are a "constitutional scholar" because your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired.The president said it was ONE of the Qualifications that made her a good candidate.One of the qualifications that made Roberts a good candidate was his Christianity.To deny this is to apply a religous test.
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