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Daughter sues for child support
Newsday ^ | October 12, 2005 | BY ANN GIVENS

Posted on 10/12/2005 5:46:25 AM PDT by Calpernia

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To: little jeremiah

Moral Absolutes Ping?


41 posted on 10/12/2005 6:44:22 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: RGSpincich

The suit against the mother may not be dropped. She still may resubmit.


42 posted on 10/12/2005 6:45:51 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: monday
Is it too much to ask parents who bring children into the world to be responsible for them?

It would be a lot easier for the parents to do their jobs if the "friends with basements" would not enable this type of behavior.

43 posted on 10/12/2005 6:46:55 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: carumba

So if this kid wins. I suppose law school is the next logical step.
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Yeah, often the young prostituted and exploited by lawyers end up wishing to become lawyer pimps themselves later on......it seems to be what the lawyers are supporting there... so long they get the money and keep her in school at others' expense, if she's smart enough they'll keep her. However I have a feeling she's going to be dumped and all these are scheme excuses and "benefits of doubt" easy arguments for a liberal crony judge to accept.


44 posted on 10/12/2005 6:56:16 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Calpernia

An eighteen year old woman is not a child!


45 posted on 10/12/2005 6:57:58 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: monday

Did you happen to read the article? There are no children involved in this as all parties have reached the age of 18 and one of them is making a claim against both parents (dismissed against the mother).

Please tell me a single state that forces the parents in an intact home to provide financially for their adult children.

Please provide me with a single state that forces an intact family to pay for the educational expenses of their adult children.

If a parent wants to pay for secondary education and has the means to do so they have the right to decide if and what type of support to provide.

For those parents who do not want to pay for their adult childrens college expenses or do not have the means to do so, there are no laws that force the parents, under penalty of imprisonment/seizure of tax returns and/or assets or any form of punitive measures if the parents do not shell out money to their adult children.


46 posted on 10/12/2005 6:58:24 AM PDT by Brytani (Democrats - destroying America since 1868)
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To: Calpernia

I'm not completely sure... but something like you have tell the state that the kid is an out of control juvenile and that they need to be in a group home or something. I've only had a very third hand, vague report of this stuff. However, the deal is that as a parent, when they get to 16, you are completely responsible for anything they do, whether it be criminal or semi-criminal or just rude, and you have absolutely zero way to control their behavior (but you had some modicum of control up until that age), but unless you've forseen this before they were age 14 and gotten the state involved in supervision of the kid, you are hosed because you have NO ability for those couple years to say boo to them, and you are nevertheless responsible for everything they do.


47 posted on 10/12/2005 6:59:44 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: monday

. Is it too much to ask parents who bring children into the world to be responsible for them?



What exactly do you call "support". Man and children does not live by bread alone.

Sometimes the options to pay for justice forecloses the ability to pay for "social justice" support allimony.

But ALL AMERICANS have proven they are socialists on attacking Fathers for anything wrong going on in this society social justice wise.


48 posted on 10/12/2005 7:00:06 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: OldFriend

NY has forced a single parent to provide educational expenses as well as support for a "child" attending college including child support to the custodial parent while the child is in school.

I've been trying to find a cite for it but have been not been able to find the exact case - I remember reading a court decision our of NY that forced the father of a 16 year old to provide support to her after the "child" had left her mothers home and received emancipation from the court. I believe it was in 1986 or right around there.


49 posted on 10/12/2005 7:02:19 AM PDT by Brytani (Democrats - destroying America since 1868)
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To: Calpernia

It seems todays kids want to enjoy the benefits of adulthood, yet not the responsibilities of it. Seen it in my own family.


50 posted on 10/12/2005 7:09:14 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: Calpernia
"I'm going to college. I don't have time to be working full-time. It's hard for me."

Wahhhhhhhhh! Life is so haaaaaaaard. I have to wooooooooork while I go to schooooooooool.

Cry me a river. Talk to the millions who have come before you and worked their way through college. No sympathy here, girlie.

51 posted on 10/12/2005 7:12:51 AM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: Calpernia
and she said her mother was too strict, setting an early curfew and denying her money for restaurants and fashionable clothes.

Oh PUH-LEEZ! Cry me a river! You want money for that stuff, get a job. I'm 15, I've gotten summer jobs. Geez, what a spoiled brat.

"I'm 18, but I still need support," she said. "I'm going to college. I don't have time to be working full-time. It's hard for me."

Life is hard. Deal with it. You can very well get a full-time job. Even a part-time job. Cut out the parties and the too-frequent social outings and the shopping that I'm sure you're doing right now.

We've got a saying at my house: "You need something? There's nothing wrong with your legs, go get it yourself!"

52 posted on 10/12/2005 7:13:35 AM PDT by 4mycountry (: TheBigB rules and anyone who argues gets ZOT-ed, understand?! :)
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To: Calpernia; twigs; OldFriend; SmoothTalker; TaxRelief; Brytani
Under New York Law (I think Section 101 of the Social Services Law), college or not, parents are legally responsible for their unemancipated children until they turn 21. This law was enacted to prevent 18-21 from qualifying for welfare when their parents had the money to help them out. If an 18-21 year old receives Medicaid or Public Assistance, the county can go after the parents for the money. This law also means that parents must pay the living expenses of unemancipated children.

Emancipated is the key. The is no clear legal process to become emancipated. If you're married or in the military, you're emancipated, but if that changes, your parents can become responsible for you again. If you move out of the house against your parents wished, with no good reason, the court will probably find that you are emancipated as well. If you have a good reason to move out, the courts may find that you are still a dependent child.
53 posted on 10/12/2005 7:15:21 AM PDT by NYFriend
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To: Calpernia

Her parents raised her. Even if they are forced to support her, there's nothing stopping them from writing her out of their will. I'd figure, that WAS their inheritance.


54 posted on 10/12/2005 7:19:11 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NYFriend

THIS is that odd category about being between the ages of 18-21 that was mentioned in the article!

Notice has it wasn't explained too well in that article also!


55 posted on 10/12/2005 7:19:40 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: An Old Marine; Fierce Allegiance

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56 posted on 10/12/2005 7:21:31 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: AFPhys

bump

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57 posted on 10/12/2005 7:22:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

>>> and she said her mother was too strict, setting an early curfew and denying her money for restaurants and fashionable clothes. >>>

Oh the humanity!!!


58 posted on 10/12/2005 7:24:00 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: NYFriend

My husband has a daughter (lives with her mother) in NY so I've spent many days studying the laws of the state when it comes to support/maintenance. I knew I'd seen that before.

Absolutely ridiculous IMO that an adult can force another adult to financially support them, as far as I know even in marriage a spouse can not force another to support them - though it is grounds for divorce.


59 posted on 10/12/2005 7:24:06 AM PDT by Brytani (Democrats - destroying America since 1868)
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To: NYFriend

Thanks for the explanation. It actually has some logic.


60 posted on 10/12/2005 7:24:48 AM PDT by twigs
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