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The FBI needs to start talking (OU Spin Alert)
The Oklahoma Daily ^ | October 10, 2005 | OK Daily Editorial Staff

Posted on 10/10/2005 1:27:09 PM PDT by LibertyRocks

One week and two days after the FBI began investigating the Joel Hinrichs case, the feds seemingly have stopped releasing information about what they have learned.

It’s time the FBI opened its files and provided The Daily, other media and the greater public with some of the answers it undoubtedly has, for more than one reason.

First, the public wants to know. Second, and almost more importantly, the longer this silence continues, the more students, faculty and the nation become “certain” in their “knowledge” of what has happened.

But that “knowledge” is based mostly on conjecture and hearsay, and while responsible media can attempt to stave off this unfortunate trend, they will ultimately lose that battle if the FBI fails to realize it has an obligation to speak because only they truly “know” what they have discovered.

Remember, the FBI has commandeered this investigation. In doing so and by not telling anyone anything, they are only allowing the events of Oct. 2 to be misinterpreted over and over by people who are firm in believing something that is false and terribly dangerous.

For example, unsubstantiated claims that Hinrichs had been frequenting the Norman mosque have managed to seep onto television news broadcasts even though everyone we have contacted at the mosque says Hinrichs was never seen there.

So who is lying? Inherently, people should perceive the unfounded news broadcasts as the liars, but that doesn’t always happen. And even if only one person sees and believes such a report there or online, word of mouth can transmit that “truth” to hundreds or thousands within a matter of days.

Which is why it is undeniably the duty of the FBI to break its unctuous vow of silence and talk to somebody. The longer the feds delay in doing so, the more they become equally responsible for misinformed social reactions as the hacks who started these rumors in the first place.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: fbi; haider; haijer; hinrichs; mohammadhaider; mohammadhaijer; mohammadyaseenhaider; mohammadyaseenhaijer; normanbombing; ou; oubombing; yaseenhaider; yaseenhaijer
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To: LibertyRocks

Seems the public eye story is a blog entry? Follow the link above to read it, I'm not posting it as a separate thread. (o:


21 posted on 10/10/2005 2:28:57 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

Explosive Device Found at Los Angeles Apartment
Posted on 10/10/2005 2:13:03 PM PDT by .cnI redruM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1500074/posts

An explosive device was detonated by the Los Angeles Police Department bomb squad outside of 527 Midvale Ave. on Friday afternoon.

A calm and quiet Westwood was briefly disrupted Friday afternoon when the Los Angeles Police Department bomb squad inspected and detonated an explosive device found within the Midvale Plaza apartment complex on the 500 block of Midvale Avenue.

After responding to a call made at 11:13 a.m., the bomb squad arrived at 527 Midvale Ave. to find "an improvised explosive device" in the building's open-air courtyard, said Grace Brady, a spokeswoman for the LAPD.

No injuries were reported, but authorities have been slow to release details about the incident and the device.

READ MORE


22 posted on 10/10/2005 2:29:05 PM PDT by flattorney
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To: Lizarde

Thanks for posting that excerpt. (o:


23 posted on 10/10/2005 2:29:36 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks
everyone we have contacted at the mosque says Hinrichs was never seen there

Why are Muslims at the mosque believed, but eyewitnesses to the event are not? Why are their accounts taken to be the truth, while anything that contradicts those accounts is discounted as rumor?

Who is lying, you ask, OK Daily? I will tell you. The people at the mosque who you sought out to give you the answers you wanted to hear and print. They are the ones who are lying. And you know that they are. And you are lying as well.

Liars, both of you. You know it, and we know it, so you're just wasting your time trying to convince us otherwise. By printing this offensive editorial, you have drawn a line in the sand, you have thrown down the gauntlet. But we are not afraid. We laugh... while you tremble in fear of the truth.

24 posted on 10/10/2005 2:33:08 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: maggief; All
Thanks Maggie! (o:

I'll post this on this thread too - for those who haven't been able to keep up-to-date my summary has tons of info on what's been reported so far on the OU case. I was originally posting this here, but it's too big now...

War in the Heartland? Terrorism and the Norman Bombing
A Comprehensive Summary w/links and documents - last updated 10/09 at 5:00AM

25 posted on 10/10/2005 2:33:22 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: laz

Makes you sick doesn't it? It would be mighty funny if there wasn't such danger in their dismissing this story and our theories as "conspiracy nut" reports.


26 posted on 10/10/2005 2:34:46 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: flattorney

Thanks, I hadn't seen that yet.


27 posted on 10/10/2005 2:35:26 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

That's a Boren directive if I ever read one. The media believes off the record police reporting -- I would too.
He has done that before with the OU Daily -- used it to get out his spin.

Are people going to believe off the record law enforcement or Boren. I say off the record as most people on campus know Boren as used the OU Daily in the past.

Seems to me they basically confirmed the report of the mosque by saying off the record law enforcement is saying ...

Anything coming out of OU right now needs parsed. You will usually pick up a few facts in all the media articles buried in with spin, spin, spin.


28 posted on 10/10/2005 2:40:39 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: LibertyRocks
Thanks, I hadn't seen that yet.

Even a blind hog could tell that a U.S. terrorist cells activation has taken place. Seeing similar reports/threats like this all over the country.
29 posted on 10/10/2005 2:41:58 PM PDT by flattorney
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To: Joe Boucher

FBI lies -- you can repeat that over and over again as OK is the perfect example starting with the OKC Bombing.


30 posted on 10/10/2005 2:42:55 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: laz

This article has Boren's fingerprints all over it -- Board of Regents should ask him to resign for interferring with the freedom of the press but they never have yet.


32 posted on 10/10/2005 2:44:02 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: flattorney

No doubt about it in my eyes.

We've got so far (that I recall off-hand):
1.) Apparent foiled attack planned for NYC
2.) OU "Suicide" bombing (with another device found)
3.) Georgia Tech (3 devices found today)
4.) Car with bombs inside found in East Chicago, IN
5.) Device found in LA

If this isn't the "Happy Ramadan" stuff Bush warned us about in his speech I'd be incredibly surprised.
I think the college-aged American used in the last threat aired by Al-Qaeda should've been the first clue...


33 posted on 10/10/2005 2:46:51 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Lexington Green

They have had some investigative reporters out working this -- this has Boren written all over it -- a lot of them are not buying into the Boren spin. Advisor should never have let him get near the Daily but he has done this in the past on other things that have happened at OU.

This is not a typical OU Daily editorial -- in fact, it isn't that well written and they have some excellent writers.


34 posted on 10/10/2005 2:47:28 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom

Yeah and even MSNBC let it slide when the Muslim Student Organization rep Houda Elyagzi said the "officials said under condition of anonymity" reporting was "speculation". The AP and MSNBC themselves use that type of report all the time. Why is it merely "speculation" in the OU case?


36 posted on 10/10/2005 2:49:22 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks
UCLA? Drudge is actually covering this one at Georgia Tech. He also has this link up about something found at UCLA although I'm having trouble bringing up the article: http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/articles.asp?id=34408

I had not trouble with the link just took a long time to be pulled up. it's about an IED found in a student apt complex, and the LAPD bomb squad took care of it, oh and the FBI was there too, it happended on friday.. make you go ummmmmmm. I think I will be EXTRA careful cause I live across the street from cal state-fullerton.

37 posted on 10/10/2005 2:49:24 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Lizarde

Thank God. We're very lucky the number of casualties hasn't been much greater...


38 posted on 10/10/2005 2:49:58 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: markman46

Combine that with the fact you reported about those around you being conspicuously quiet these last few days I would definitely take precautions. Stay safe and God Bless markman.


39 posted on 10/10/2005 2:51:20 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

Because they don't have David Boren and his contacts on board. That man has a long reach.


40 posted on 10/10/2005 2:51:46 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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