Explosive Device Found at Los Angeles Apartment
10/10/2005 2:13:03 PM PDT by .cnI redruM http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1500074/posts
Posted on 10/10/2005 1:27:09 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
One week and two days after the FBI began investigating the Joel Hinrichs case, the feds seemingly have stopped releasing information about what they have learned.
It’s time the FBI opened its files and provided The Daily, other media and the greater public with some of the answers it undoubtedly has, for more than one reason.
First, the public wants to know. Second, and almost more importantly, the longer this silence continues, the more students, faculty and the nation become “certain” in their “knowledge” of what has happened.
But that “knowledge” is based mostly on conjecture and hearsay, and while responsible media can attempt to stave off this unfortunate trend, they will ultimately lose that battle if the FBI fails to realize it has an obligation to speak because only they truly “know” what they have discovered.
Remember, the FBI has commandeered this investigation. In doing so and by not telling anyone anything, they are only allowing the events of Oct. 2 to be misinterpreted over and over by people who are firm in believing something that is false and terribly dangerous.
For example, unsubstantiated claims that Hinrichs had been frequenting the Norman mosque have managed to seep onto television news broadcasts even though everyone we have contacted at the mosque says Hinrichs was never seen there.
So who is lying? Inherently, people should perceive the unfounded news broadcasts as the liars, but that doesn’t always happen. And even if only one person sees and believes such a report there or online, word of mouth can transmit that “truth” to hundreds or thousands within a matter of days.
Which is why it is undeniably the duty of the FBI to break its unctuous vow of silence and talk to somebody. The longer the feds delay in doing so, the more they become equally responsible for misinformed social reactions as the hacks who started these rumors in the first place.
Could be... IIRC in the interview with his father aired on MSNBC he said that Joel bought artillery shells through EBay. I'm searching as we speak for that specific comment. (Adding more info to my blog right now, so I'm in and out of FR. I'll reply to posts as I see them. (o: )
Character most definitely matters in a public official, because if such an official has skeletons in his closet, and they are discovered, he is beholden to whomever is privy.
This is what I strongly suspect is the case with Boren/OU/Norman/OKC. Terrorist cells have existed in that area since 1991, since Iraqi Republican Guards were resettled there after the Gulf War. Boren has been at OU since 1994. The Murrah bombing happened in 1995. The Islamist involvement in that bombing was covered up and the cells continue to operate. The Hinrichs bombing is just the latest episode in a continuing saga. Why are those cells allowed to continue to operate? Why are Muslims so protected at OU? Why does it seem they can get away with any damn thing that they want in that area?
I've been pussyfooting around the issue, but what the hell, let the cards fall where they may:
http://members.aol.com/mpwright9/boren.html
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68197
To paraphrase FNC, I post, you decide. I know what I have decided.
If all of this is true, Boren's behavior is the result of much more than not wishing to insult the Muslim community, or lose their donations, or jeopardize the football season. He is jumping through hoops for those who know his secret and could destroy his public image. The end result is the continued tolerance of terrorist cells embedded in our heartland and a great threat to our national security.
Norman's role in Islamist terrorism goes further back than the OKC bombing in '95. It all starts in '91, right after the Gulf War, when thousands of Iraqi Republican Guards who stood down were given asylum by the US and resettled in and around OKC because Saddam would kill them if they stayed in Iraq. Regrettably, the resettled RG were nothing more than a trojan horse, enemy agents transplanted into our heartland and still working for Saddam while pretending to be defectors.
The Gulf War never ended. We signed a cease-fire and kept our end of the bargain, but Saddam continued hostilities throughout the 90's in the only way he could -- through terrorism. And he linked with Al Qaeda to do it, each one fighting on a different front but with much cross-pollination centered in Norman. So what has happened since '91?
1) WTC '93, masterminded by Iraqi agent Ramzi Yousef
2) OKC '95, by Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, but aided by Iraqi agents
3) TWA 800, probably by Al Qaeda
4) Embassies in Africa, by Al Qaeda
5) U.S.S. Cole, by Al Qaeda
6) 9/11, by Al Qaeda, but executed in a manner remarkably similar to Yousef's Project Bojinka to finish what Yousef started back in '93.
For twelve years, we sat and waited for the UN to do its inspections while Saddam continued fighting and Al Qaeda joined the battle. And Klintoon fiddled through it all, while the sheeple failed to connect the dots right in front of their faces.
When GW started the Iraq War in 2003, he was simply resuming hostilities on our side and doing what Klintoon should have done but avoided like the plague. The Iraq War isn't a new war. It isn't even Gulf War Part Two. It is a resumption of the Gulf War after twelve years of cease-fire constantly violated by Saddam with both weapons inspections shenanigans and terrorist actions. Saddam is now out of the war, but Al Qaeda continues it. It needs to be finished, no matter what it takes, no matter how long.
Some links:
http://www.jaynadavis.com/
http://www.infowars.com/transcript_schippers.html
http://www.stoptheftaa.org/artman/publish/article_23.shtml
http://www.jaynadavis.com/story090502-wsj1.html
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=static&page=jaynadavis
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22122
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/242003c.asp
http://www.akdart.com/okc.html
Why?
The answer, I'm sure, is no mystery to David Boren.
WOW, that is really close - only a couple blocks away. They quoted students in the article at the Bruin, but I too didn't know how close it was. Thanks for posting that.
You should post that at the Midvale thread if you haven't already done so. (o:
Incidents at Georgia Tech and also in LA this week suggest a pattern.
You're right about that and IMHO it needs to be reported widely at this point. Kids on these campuses need to be aware that they should report any suspicious activities, and not take their safety for granted.
(Also note the incident in which 3 devices were found in East Chicago, IN on I-94 in the trunk of a car. Those devices too (like at GA Tech were designed to go off when handled). Police were alerted to that car because someone saw an altercation between the driver and the woman in his car. She was the one who told police about the devices in the back. Not sure if it is related to all of this, but it's worth a mention due to the bottles found in the back of Hinrichs car.)
Yes. The media has been absent on this developing story, and the government seems to have a 'none of your business' posture about this.
I have an open mind and am willing to wait for more facts, but it's clear that the standard policy with the feds is to declare incident's as 'not terrrorist related' even before they hit the scene.
Ultimately, if this is a pattern it won't be limited to three campuses and if it hits the fan they will have no choice but to call it what it is. Their reluctance to tell us things isn't encouraging. Do you think if the rest of the 911 planes were quietly foiled after the first plane hit the WTC, we would have just been told it was a terrible accident/suicidal depressed pilot/human error/whatever?
I do.
Even after the second plane had hit the second tower, CNN was still claiming that it was navigational error. And when the first plane hit, everyone was saying it was a small private plane, even though you could see from the large gaping hole that it must have been a jet.
This needs to turn into Watergate for Boren. Let the chips fall where they may.
Anyone who hasn't yet done so, please click the links in laz' post above. I think the info contained therein is key to the strangeness in Norman.
I haven't followed the news on this. Not to worry, there are FReepers that will glean the truth from the matter and get to the bottom of it eventually.
You ought to check out the links, apparently Boren is a closeted homosexual.
CORRECTION:
"the current war in the middle east"
Should be Operation Desert Storm - but it is about oil, terrorism, and war. (o:
Should've mentioned the stuff about Alzoubi is almost at the bottom of the page. Probably better just to bring the scroll bar all the way down the page and go back up above the comments. (o:
If I had a regular website right now I'd put it up there due to the size. It's getting hard to read...
I'd say there's more to Mr. Alzoubi than meets the eye. And you've already uncovered enough to have my eyes wide open.
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