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The truth about global warming
The Seattle Times ^ | October 9, 2005 | Sandi Doughton

Posted on 10/09/2005 6:41:34 PM PDT by neverdem

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The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame I'm surprised the Telegraph posted the story.

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Global Warming on Mars?

THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF EARTH'S UNSTOPPABLE 1,500-YEAR CLIMATE CYCLE

1 posted on 10/09/2005 6:41:39 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The truth about global warming......Climate changes and what man does has very little to do about it.


2 posted on 10/09/2005 6:44:03 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
The truth about global warming......Climate changes and what man does has very little to do about it.

Exactly right and any and all who are "willing" to be intellectually honest about this subject will come to this factual conclusion.

The only problem is the MSM tries (for domestic political reasons) to hide the facts on this subject as much as possible.

3 posted on 10/09/2005 6:53:10 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Always Right

"atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide are increasing"

As proven by what?
What methods, locations, periods, altitudes?????


4 posted on 10/09/2005 6:53:16 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: Always Right

Pshawww. I've got a rooster who makes the sun rise every morning by crowing at it.

If I kept that rooster caged up a little later each day, I could reduce the amount of sun we are being exposed to.

< /sarcasm >


5 posted on 10/09/2005 6:53:58 PM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: neverdem

OK, if you really, really think carbon emissions are the cause of global warming put the blame where it belongs (Jane Fonda) and support building 400 new nuclear power plants.


6 posted on 10/09/2005 6:56:32 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: neverdem

OK, if you really, really think carbon emissions are the cause of global warming put the blame where it belongs (Jane Fonda) and support building 400 new nuclear power plants.


7 posted on 10/09/2005 6:56:35 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: neverdem
'zactly. The bogs are defrosting and soon a huge fart of methane might or might not smother us. And they'll claim it's because us bean eaters don't buy Tums.

The world takes care of itself, regardless of our being here. But if we want to continue happily 'occupying' the earth, we need to eat many many Tums.

Its just a theory.

Earth/Tums Jihad Warning!

/s
8 posted on 10/09/2005 6:58:34 PM PDT by My Right Foot
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Most scientists don't know how to communicate their complex results to the public.

What a sanctimonious asshole. "Oh, we know what going on because we're the anointed, but Joe Sixpack is just too dumb and too focused on reality TV for us to convince him."

9 posted on 10/09/2005 6:59:01 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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Models have improved greatly in the past 30 years but still can't anticipate all the ways the atmosphere will respond as greenhouse gases climb. The dozen models in use today predict average temperature increases of 3 to 11 degrees by the end of the century.

Scientists and engineers love their models, but one should run a model against actual data and show that the model matches the data. This is not yet possible for geo warming models, hence the models can't be run backwards and predict things either. Expecially since we don't know what the sun was doing in the Eocene period.

With new evidence that the solar heat has been increasing by about the amount of the warming we should all realize that while climate change may be occurring, it may not be time to dump the family car. But it may be time to build higher levees.


10 posted on 10/09/2005 6:59:55 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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Humans are only beginning to understand her rhythms. Our puny human lifespans and written history but a blink of an eye to Sol.


11 posted on 10/09/2005 7:05:05 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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""atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide are increasing"



As proven by what?
What methods, locations, periods, altitudes?????"

One thing they can do is take core samples in deep ice that allows the percent of dissolved carbon dioxide back through tens of thousands of years.

The problem is that CO2 has between increasing steadily and rapidly since the early 1800's but global warming didn't start til almost 100 years later.


12 posted on 10/09/2005 7:05:48 PM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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To: weegee

yup . . . . ain't it peculiar how the only mention of propaganda $$$ is pinned on the "skeptics"?


13 posted on 10/09/2005 7:06:55 PM PDT by cyberdasher
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To: Always Right

The other truth:

Mankind is responsible for 2% of the co2 which enters the atmosphere each year. *IF* that 2% is all it takes to cause all of these dire situations, short of mass suicide, how can we cut co2 emissions enough to matter??

I read an interesting article some time back (didn't save it unfortunately) that took the position that the US could reduce co2 beyond Kyoto requirements by planting 15 billion dollars worth of trees each year.

If, for the sake of discussion, that is true, what would the enviro wackos say to that solution?


14 posted on 10/09/2005 7:08:53 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: neverdem
There is a logical explanation for global warming:

We need to bring back pirates.

15 posted on 10/09/2005 7:10:27 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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As Gore sipped Diet Coke,

There's a lot of CO2 in Diet Coke, which is why he later switched to iced tea.

16 posted on 10/09/2005 7:12:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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It's not that the skeptics think that the earth is too stable for change, it's that they think that the forces of nature are so large that man's role is not as significant as the greens think. They think, like the earth-centric solar system proponents of old, that humans play a much larger role in the grand scheme of things than they really do.

Also, they are like people who think they see UFOs all the time. They have the global warming template, and they plug everything into it. Then they castigate others who dare look at information without plugging it into the trendy template.


17 posted on 10/09/2005 7:12:32 PM PDT by jwalburg (If I have not seen as far as others, it is because of the giants standing on my shoulders.)
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To: Tribune7
OK, if you really, really think carbon emissions are the cause of global warming put the blame where it belongs (Jane Fonda) and support building 400 new nuclear power plants.

I don't have problems with nuclear power, but if your addressing that comment to me, I guess you didn't look at the links in comment# 1.

18 posted on 10/09/2005 7:14:02 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Mount Saint Helens was Bush's fault. As was Mount Vesuvius and Mount Krakatoa.

Someone has to keep the record straight and the scorecard accurate.

And in breaking news, President Bush had a bowel movement yesterday on AF-1 that caused a 7.7 Earthquake in Pakistan and India.

Michael Moore will have his movie out by Christmas.

19 posted on 10/09/2005 7:15:36 PM PDT by Cobra64
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OK. This would do more to alleviate the greenhouse effect than any other proposal I've seen. (The Kyoto Treaty would just make things worse, but more expensive.)


20 posted on 10/09/2005 7:15:38 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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