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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

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To: Cicero
"we" are responsible for Arlen Specter being in the Senate.

No, the people of Pennsylvania in both the primary and the general election voted for the guy. They are responsible.

There are ways to make RINOs toe the line, and they don't depend entirely on the Republican leadership in the Senate. How many bills has Bush vetoed? How often has he disciplined dissenting RINOs by taking away their pork? How often has he punished his enemies when they got out of line? No wonder he can't control the party.

The RINO's as a block can stop anything that they want. They have that power. It is the people who elected them that gave them that power.

381 posted on 10/09/2005 5:07:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Black Tooth

LOL.

I don't agree with you, but that is funny. I'll give you that.


382 posted on 10/09/2005 5:07:14 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog
If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

As accurate a picture as can be painted about the current lot of Senate Republicans.

383 posted on 10/09/2005 5:07:18 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Pukin Dog

yessem....as was I.


384 posted on 10/09/2005 5:07:35 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: zendari
It's a simple fact that Harry Reid and the Democratic leadership simply outclasses Frist and company.

I suspect -- but don't know -- a lot of this has to do with intraparty Senate rules, like the Republican rule term-limiting chairmen (I don't think the Dems have a similar rule). Or maybe it's FBI files? I asked on another thread how the Dems enforce party discipline, but no one answered. So I'm asking again if anyone knows.

385 posted on 10/09/2005 5:07:39 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Pukin Dog
We cant win with this Senate. We can only stand-pat at best.

But giving up without clearly citing WHY is, well, disingenuous. If the President can't win with the Senate holding out a 60 vote hurdle, he ought to make that an issue. It is a constitutional crisis, but the President seems to be not bothered by it.

386 posted on 10/09/2005 5:08:00 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Guenevere

You are 100% correct. I always watch FNS, and Brit did ALL the spanking today.


387 posted on 10/09/2005 5:08:09 PM PDT by Beagle8U
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To: Pukin Dog

LOL

Are you sure you're not a female? This back and forth...it's almost hormonal! ;)


388 posted on 10/09/2005 5:08:47 PM PDT by Chgogal (Consistency and FR admin. moderators are like oil and water.)
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To: A Jovial Cad

Welcome to FR.


389 posted on 10/09/2005 5:08:51 PM PDT by Principled
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To: citizencon
LOL.

I can just hear his press conference: "Ladies and Gentlemen...Harriet Miers. She wasn't my first choice, but she'll have to do."

LOL. I think I've been to a couple of weddings like that.
390 posted on 10/09/2005 5:09:01 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog

Actually RINO Lindsay Graham said much the same things as you are saying. I hated to, but I agree.


391 posted on 10/09/2005 5:09:06 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: Iwo Jima
I didn't say skeletons....did I say skeletons?...No, I didn't say skeletons.

I said she had 'quite the activism'.....

..but if you heard what I heard, you surely don't seem to have the imprint I have of Brit practically hissing this in Kristol's face.

It was a very sharp retort.

And activism can be skeleton wannabe's if a vetting committee is out for blood.

392 posted on 10/09/2005 5:10:11 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Pukin Dog
What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election.

Spector never made such a promise. He promised to move Bush's nominations along in commitee and get them promt hearings and a vote. It would be completely unethical to pledge to support nominees without knowing who they might be.

393 posted on 10/09/2005 5:10:33 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Pukin Dog

Its safe to call this not a game of checkers but of Grand Master Chess. On Monday Specter took the podium claiming that a
potential maelstrom had been avoided by the appointment of Miers. After that Schumer spoke an said that the President was in a "box". Specters body language bespoke great confidence and a sense of personal triumph. Schumer's attitude was one of being still in the Majority. There was something humiliating in it all. Then as we watched the Presidents body language in presenting
Ms Miers, well let us say that he acted as though he did not want to be there or was not even there so was his lack of enthusiasm and pride in presentation. The question is whether this is real weakness or contrived weakness. In high stakes chess like this and with a climate and culture of declining trust in officials and in institutions righteous anger and mistrust is completely understandable.


394 posted on 10/09/2005 5:10:35 PM PDT by NixonsAngryGhost (WARNING- Arlen Specters Brain is Radioactive)
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To: Pukin Dog
We have to keep our RINO's until we can purge them safely.

Unfortunately, that appears to be never. They've been there forever and show no signs of leaving until they die in their chairs.

I'm not going to get old waiting; we need to develop some parallel paths to independence, independent of Big Stupid Government, because the Republican Party sure as hell isn't going to fix, or even slow the growth of, BSG. That's now painfully clear.

395 posted on 10/09/2005 5:10:56 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Pukin Dog

If only we knew what you knew eh?


396 posted on 10/09/2005 5:10:58 PM PDT by voteconstitutionparty
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To: counterpunch
Santorum is going to lose his re-election bid for supporting "Scotty".

I read that Santorum owed Specter for supporting him when he ran. And isn't Santorum going to be running against Casey (who I believe is very popular)?

397 posted on 10/09/2005 5:11:11 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Principled; A Jovial Cad

"Welcome to FR."

What's up with this "Fuzzy math"? Looks like AJC signed up in 2002.

WHOOPS


398 posted on 10/09/2005 5:11:31 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Pukin Dog
We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage.

What about Specter, didn't mention him, perhaps because he would have lost his primary without Bush and Santorum's support. With that support Specter only got 51%.

You did mention, Chaffee.... just look at what the National Republican Senatorial Committee is doing to fellow Republican and Chaffee opponent Mayor Steve Laffey:

ANNCR: “Have you seen this guy Steve Laffey?”

AD: “I’m Steve Laffey…”

ANNCR: “In his TV ads, he complains about oil companies… But he’s the same Steve Laffey who ran a company selling oil industry stocks on Wall Street. Profiting from offshore drilling. The oil companies made a fortune. Steve Laffey made a fortune. Now Laffey says he will . . .”

AD: “. . . stand up to the special interests.”

ANNCR: “Slick. Steve Laffey. Laughing all the way to the bank. The National Republican Senatorial Committee is responsible for the content of this ad.”

Link available at http://www.nrsc.org/newsdesk/document.aspx?ID=966

399 posted on 10/09/2005 5:11:32 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (you call me a right wing extremist like it's a bad thing.....)
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To: MojoWire
MojoWire,

You wrote "who has an acceptable on-legislative-from-the-bench conservative type of record" .....

How would we have known that they wouldn't be a Souter or a Kennedy? From what I understand, that's what they had.
400 posted on 10/09/2005 5:11:54 PM PDT by Bush 100 Percent
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