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'Bikinis and booze caused bombings'
The Australian ^ | October 10, 2005 | Simon Kearney

Posted on 10/09/2005 1:53:11 PM PDT by Dundee

'Bikinis and booze caused bombings'

AUSTRALIANS had declared a moral war on Muslims in Indonesia with their drinking and skimpy clothes in Bali, the eldest brother of three of those responsible for the 2002 attacks said yesterday.

Muhammed Khozin told The Australian at his home in Tenggulun, East Java, that his community didn't care about the October 1 Bali bombings because they were not linked to people from his village.

Mr Khozin's younger brothers Amrozi and Mukhlas were sentenced to death and Ali Imron to life imprisonment for their roles in the attacks on the Sari Club and Paddy's bar, which killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.

Mr Khozin said the behaviour of Westerners in his country was to blame for the radicalism adopted by his brothers.

"Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry. Don't do that when visiting a country with a Muslim majority," he said. "I'm sorry, Australian culture makes war on morality. They come to Bali with bikinis, they make war on morality. Not physical war, morality war. Respect the culture and religion of Indonesia."

His son, 19-year-old university student Afif, said there would be no end to terrorism while Australians continued going to Bali and behaving without respect for Muslim culture.

He believed the first Bali bombing committed by his uncles was justified because it discouraged tourists in Bali. "If Muslims died in that action, the Muslims will go to heaven," he said.

Afif said Muslims and Christians would only live side by side when Christians learned to respect Muslim culture.

Mr Khozin runs the Al-Islaman boarding school in the village that he founded with his late father 30 years ago. Such schools, known as pesantren, are seen as a breeding ground for terrorists.

He said if Canberra wanted to stop radicalism in Indonesia, it should teach Australians to be more respectful of Islam.

Moreover, Australia could help fund facilities at Islamic schools like his, which are mainly in poor areas and are under-resourced, to help better educate Muslims in Indonesia.

"Please give to us because maybe that's the way to make the relationship with Indonesia and Australia better," he said.

He taught his students the concept of "dakwah", which means to confront people who do things that are wrong and tell them to stop.

But he did not subscribe to the view of radicals that they should act to physically erase something they did not agree with.

His brothers had a different view of Islam to his but he believed they were still good people. He called on the Indonesian Government to return them to their community, where they could be rehabilitated.

"The community have a dream. If Amrozi came back here, he will do things like that."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bali; indonesia; islam; jihad; modesty; rop; wot
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Maybe they should learn to respect our culture which involves nuking our enemies...
1 posted on 10/09/2005 1:53:11 PM PDT by Dundee
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To: Dundee
"Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry. Don't do that when visiting a country with a Muslim majority," he said.

Sounds to me like a bad case of sour grapes!

2 posted on 10/09/2005 1:54:34 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Serving fresh wit everyday, for 36 years.)
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To: Dundee

If bikinis are mentioned, there needs to be an obligatory picture.


3 posted on 10/09/2005 1:55:18 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: JRios1968

The clear solution is to make sure no country has a Muslim majority. If that means pruning a diseased branch of humanity to save the rest, so be it.


4 posted on 10/09/2005 1:56:32 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Corporatism is not conservatism)
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To: Dundee

Amazing how much damage a deeply rooted fear of female sexuality can unleash. A truly barbaric culture.


5 posted on 10/09/2005 1:58:50 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Speaking several languages is an asset; keeping your mouth shut in one is priceless.)
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To: Dundee

What these evil Jihadist filth won't tell you is that Bali is Hindu dominated. The scum who compose the army of Allah are trying to impose Islamic prudery on a Hindu region that welcomes Western tourism. Bikinis, booze and all...


7 posted on 10/09/2005 2:00:46 PM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Dundee

I declare jihad on bikinied women and alcohol. Give them all to me...

...you know, so I can dispose of them properly...

:-D )))


8 posted on 10/09/2005 2:01:10 PM PDT by RichInOC ("The coffee is strong at Cafe du Monde, the doughnuts are too hot to touch..." Save the Big Greasy!)
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To: JRios1968

Maybe they should not hold out their hands and accept tourist money. Besides, I have seen many muslim men get off of the airplane drunk as a skunk when returning home and the women cover up prior to landing.


9 posted on 10/09/2005 2:01:27 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: thoughtomator

"The clear solution is to make sure no country has a Muslim majority. If that means pruning a diseased branch of humanity to save the rest, so be it"

Islamofacists are perfectly capable of finding some other rationale to commit terror crimes when they are in the minority too.

And good people of any religion don't blow up civilians on purpose.


10 posted on 10/09/2005 2:02:39 PM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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To: thoughtomator

Indeed...


11 posted on 10/09/2005 2:03:34 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Serving fresh wit everyday, for 36 years.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

You sir, are a rat bastard for posting that link.

Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go have my eyes removed.


12 posted on 10/09/2005 2:05:35 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Dundee

Awright, listen up, all you red-blooded young American males:

THIS is what we're fighing to defend! Whatever your politics, whatever your creed or color- this fight is about preserving our culture of Booze and Bikini Babes!
So get yourself down to your local armed forces recruiter ASAP! Or you might just wake up one day in a world of ice tea and supermodels in Burqas. . .


13 posted on 10/09/2005 2:08:42 PM PDT by Ostlandr (Hey, Salada! I need a new Tagline!)
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To: gondramB

You are correct. First it was Israel and the Jews. Now it's bikinis and booze. Who's making this up? Howard Dean or Rhandi Rhodes?


14 posted on 10/09/2005 2:09:40 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: NY Attitude

I always have this favorite story from my early days in the Air Force. I was in technical training at Sheppard AFB, in Texas, and in the class ahead of me there were 2 guys from the Royal Bahraini Air Force, one of them a member of the royal family. They took the time to tell everyone not to grab their left hands (for the familiar reasons,) and not to have pork around them, etc.

Imagine our surprise the first Friday we were there, to go to the Officers' Club and find Ali and Salah already there, cigarettes in one hand, beer on the other, and their arms around these gorgeous local señoritas. One of us got brave and asked Ali how come they were drinking, smoking and cavorting on a Friday if they were Muslim.

Ali replied: "Oh, that applies only in Bahrain. Allah is in Bahrain, not here, so we can do whatever we like."

On that day, what little respect I had left for Islam was gone.


15 posted on 10/09/2005 2:10:15 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Serving fresh wit everyday, for 36 years.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Thanks for calling attention that post...now I have to go and forcibly remove my eyes!


16 posted on 10/09/2005 2:11:17 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Serving fresh wit everyday, for 36 years.)
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To: Dundee
"Please give to us because maybe that's the way to make the relationship with Indonesia Democrats and Australia Real Americans better,"

I see a definite similarity here.

17 posted on 10/09/2005 2:13:17 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: JRios1968

Yep. Like the 9/11 bombers going to a strip club the night before.

If their god is not omnipresent, he doesn't add up to the True God!! Not that that is new news. ;)

Pukes.



TLR


18 posted on 10/09/2005 2:13:48 PM PDT by The Last Rebel
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To: Dundee

These are the types of "root causes" the Left chooses to ignore.


19 posted on 10/09/2005 2:14:39 PM PDT by Sometimes A River (Serving on a Meals-on-Wheels program is NOT a qualification for a SC nominee. Call your Senators!)
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To: Dundee

No Kidding!! Learn to respect our culture, which includes making jokes in very poor taste about rag-heads. And fighting back -- harder -- when attacked. And they don't worry about the Muslims they killed, 'they'll go to heaven.' Self-righteous prigs.


20 posted on 10/09/2005 2:19:22 PM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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