Wrong Proposition (Liberal L.A Times Rails At Prop 73 - Parental Notification Amendment Alert)

Los Angeles Times ^ | 10/09/05 | Los Angeles Times Editorial

[goldstategop]

TEEN PREGNANCY AND ABORTION RATES have been declining in California for years, and most pregnant girls tell a parent before getting an abortion. So Proposition 73, requiring doctors to inform a minor's parents before performing an abortion, has little to offer this state — and much to take away. It adds to the court system's burdens, threatens to apply only to poorer teens and introduces troubling language to the state's Constitution.

Knowing that this is a strongly pro-choice state, the proposition's backers are reassuring voters that they don't have to be anti-abortion to support the initiative. You just have to favor a lower teen-abortion rate, they say, and better communication between parent and child. ....

Since Proposition 73 would be a constitutional amendment, this would glue into the state's Constitution anti-abortion language that proponents undoubtedly hope would serve as a foot in the door in their efforts to erode what is now a constitutional right to seek an abortion.

Society can and should encourage parents and children to talk about sexual responsibility and other vital issues, but it cannot constitutionally mandate an Ozzie-and-Harriet world.

[goldstategop]

The L.A Times liberals oppose a common-sense parental notification amendment to the California State Constitution... because it endangers the Left's precious abortion on demand. They want minor child girls to get an abortion without the parents knowing about it. That's the Left's definition of "family values" - along with the requisite liberal sneering at an Ozzie-and-Harriet world.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[goldstategop]

Addendum: Predictably boring. Liberals have stopped being surprising. I can tell the Times positions on the next three propositions without opening each day's paper to read their editorial. I know exactly what they're gonna say.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[kingu]

Again, the liberals look for the slipery slope arguement, because that is how they operate. If there is some wording in this proposition that makes it more difficult for someone to get an abortion in California, a liberal, were it their cause, would abuse it over and over again.

I like to think the conservatives are more honest about such things and the language won't be abused. But in any event, this proposition is critical for returning some control to the home, ripping it out of the hands of the schools who not only will provide transportation to the abortion, but is required by law to lie to the parent if they happen to call the school to check up on their child.

Prop 73 is going to pass with flying colors.

[goldstategop]

I'll tell you why its going to pass: liberals look down on parents and think they're stupid and heartless and according to their logic, the abortion clinic is a teen girl's best friend. With logic like that, how can they lose? DUH.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[ncountylee]

Unfortunately the subscription base of the LA Times is so liberal that this anti-family position won't hurt them in the pocket book.

[goldstategop]

They're so extreme even our pro-choice Governor backs Prop. 73. I don't know why they oppose giving parents the ability to keep tabs on what their child's up to. It makes no sense. If you asked the editors if a child should be able to get an aspirin tablet without parental permission, they would say NO. But when it comes to abortion - reason flies out of the window. And for good measure, let's look at the language they find "troubling." All it does is define an abortion as being the result of the "death of an unborn child, a child conceived and not yet born." Now we can see why they oppose it - it honestly defines the nature of an abortion. Its not euphemistic enough for good liberals. That is certainly "troubling" - the death of a child as opposed to a mere fetus.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[gpapa]

troubling language

More words from the LASlimes. A paper not worthy of using as a substitute for toilet paper. The LASlimes says that California is a strongly pro-choice state. Garbage. The LASlimes is a mouthpiece for the NARALs of the world, promoting abortion on demand without limit. They refuse to say what abortion really is, the denial of life to those as yet unborn. They mock people who associate themselves with a pro-life position as right wing radicals. Nothing could be further from the truth. Politics has nothing to do with it. In this country you are either true to the spirit of the Declaration of Independence or you are not. Enshrined in that Declaration are these words:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

In June of 1973 the Supreme Court of the United States broke that convenant inherent in the Declaration, and the Constitution itself. In the aftermath of that decision over 40,000,000 lives have not been born in the Land of the Free. Without life there is no liberty, Without liberty there is no happiness. With abortion there is no freedom. Our Judges and elected officials take an oath to defend the Constitution evoking the name of God. Some of them turn around and ignore that oath as if it meant nothing but a formality. Freedom is not free. You have to earn it. Unborn children deserve a chance to earn that freedom in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. We should defend and honor them like we do our fallen warriors, they deserve nothing less.

Catholic Californian

[goldstategop]

True. Liberty and happiness are contingent on being alive. Its stunning how some people overlook the obvious. The measure under contemplation doesn't even ban abortion - but no matter - the folks in favor of abortion of demand have to avert their faces from the fact the procedure is designed to terminate life. That's why they can't have an honest discussion about the subject. Liberalism is now all about opposing reason and common sense if other people are for it.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[msnimje]

Shame on them

[gridlock]

I would agree that the State Constitution is the wrong place for this kind of specific language. But amending the constitution has been made necessary by the fact that the state courts have shown repeatedly that they will do whatever it takes to strike down any law that restricts abortion in any way.

[goldstategop]

The California Supreme Court struck down a parental consent law in 1997. This constitutional amendment provides for notification instead of consent. The intent is to broaden parental rights and limit the number of abortions. Most people agree those objectives are admirable. For the Left, they're intolerable because they strengthen the family and they run counter to abortion on demand - the only catechism that is absolute sacred dogma to them.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that..

[libertylover]

TEEN PREGNANCY AND ABORTION RATES have been declining in California for years, and most pregnant girls tell a parent before getting an abortion. So Proposition 73, requiring doctors to inform a minor's parents before performing an abortion, has little to offer this state — and much to take away.

Brilliant. Rape rate is declining so let's legalize rape.

..threatens to apply only to poorer teens...

Yeah, right. Only girls from poor families will be required to notify their parents.

[libertylover]

I don't know why they oppose giving parents the ability to keep tabs on what their child's up to.

Sure you do. They want the state to be in control, not the parents.

[goldstategop]

And rich girls can buy their way out by going to Nevada or Arizona. Just how stupid does the Times think its readers are?

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[goldstategop]

They want Planned Parenthood to continue its ugly business in the dark. No sunshine on what the abortion industry is doing which is funny since in virtually every other case liberals advocate vigorous oversight.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[libertylover]

The California Supreme Court struck down a parental consent law in 1997.

I don't about California, but most states require parental consent before minors can have their ears pierced and this passes for liberal "logic".

[goldstategop]

Bingo! A child needs permission to get her belly pierced but she's adult enough to decide whether to abort her baby. And belly piercing is a good deal less hazardous than an abortion.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[wildbill]

Tell the parents about a potentially life-threatening surgical procedure for the patient? Ridiculous say libs.